The Tiger and the Strawberry

[Petrus]

The Tiger and the Strawberry

   A man is strolling in the forest, contemplating the meaning of life, wondering what is might be, when he sees, bounding down the track towards him, an enormous tiger, with an even more enormous grin on its face, licking its chops.

Putting aside his contemplations, he hot-foots it in the other direction. As the tiger closes upon him, the track comes to an end at the edge of a cliff, and without pausing for reflection, lest he become a little light lunch, he launches himself into the void.

Fortuitously, he is able to grab hold of a vine, which brings him up short against the cliff face with a thump. The tiger is quite put out, and putting out its claws reaches down to where he hangs, grazing the top of his head.

Once he has regained his composure, he decides to look down, where he sees some good news and some bad news. The good news is that the bottom of the cliff is only a few feet below him. The bad news is that there is another tiger with is paws up the cliff, about to take a lunge at him. He pulls his legs up as far as he can, so that this tiger is only able to graze his feet.

While thinking to himself, thank God for the vine, two little mice, a black mouse and a white mouse, creep out of a hole and begin to gnaw at its root. He decides it is time to make a general appraisal of his situation, with a hungry tiger above grazing his head, a hungry tiger below grazing his feet, and two voracious mice making his hold on the cliff face increasingly tenuous, and he says to himself, another fine mess you got me into.

At this point, he notices, a short distance from him along the cliff face, where the warm sun breaks through the forest canopy, there is a strawberry bush. And on this strawberry bush there is the largest, reddest, juiciest strawberry he has ever seen. In his extremity, he reaches out, plucks the strawberry, and puts it into his mouth. Ah!, he says to himself in delight, absolutely delicious!

Enlightenment :
"The man tasted to the tiger exactly as the strawberry did to the man." In other words, the man, the tiger and the strawberry are all one Self. The "illusion" of individuality is seen through. There is no soul, so there is no fear—no fear of death because there is no one there to die.

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Jika perumpamaan ini pernah didiskusikan. Ijinkanlah saya bertanya lagi apakah kesimpulannya (enlightenment) betul ?
Apa yang anda lakukan jika anda adalah orang tsb ?

[Nevada]

Sdr. Petrus, saya ingin meluruskan penjelasan yg dicetak merah itu...

Keinginan adalah salah satu yg menyebabkan penderitaan bagi makhluk. Keinginan ini adalah tanha, yaitu nafsu-keinginan yg terus-menerus. Bahkan Anda mungkin sudah sering mendengar kalimat bijak yg berbunyi "perjalanan yg paling singkat adalah perjalanan menuju ke kematian, sedangkan perjalanan yg paling lama adalah perjalanan menuju kepuasan"
Ya, manusia (dan semua makhluk) selalu tidak merasa puas dan ingin mengejar kenikmatan semu. Karena itulah keinginan menyebabkan penderitaan.

Keinginan ini pada dasrnya berangkat dari EGO / AKU / DIRI / JIWA / ROH. Selama masih ada pandangan keakuan, orang ybs akan memenuhi panggilan egoismenya untuk mencari kenikmatan. Dan bila kenikmatan itu habis, ia akan mencarinya lagi. dalam skala yg lebih kronis, orang ybs mencari kenimatan abadi berupa kekekalan ROH / JIWA / AKU pada Alam / Tempat menyenangkan laiinya, seperti Surga Abadi. Itu semua adalah hasrat untuk memuaskan EGO-nya yg tidak pernah terpuaskan.

Seorang Arahat sudah jelas betul melihat fatamorgana ini. Oleh karena itu, dia tidak melepaskan AKU. Karena AKU memang tidak pernah ada. Seorang Arahat HANYA MELEPASKAN PANDANGAN KELIRU AKAN ADANYA AKU.

"Keinginan ini pada dasrnya berangkat dari EGO / AKU / DIRI / JIWA / ROH "  kontradiksi dengan "Karena AKU memang tidak pernah ada"

pindah ke topik yg ini saja : http://dhammacitta.org/forum/index.php?topic=6397.msg105844;topicseen#msg105844

Ok. Saya ralat. Maksudnya Keinginan ini pada dasrnya berangkat dari pandangan keliru akan adanya EGO / AKU / DIRI / JIWA / ROH

Terimakasih sudah mengingatkan... 

[Enlighted]

dia telah mengatasi ketakutan. pikiran tenang dan jernih itu sumbernya.

[markosprawira]

The Tiger and the Strawberry

   A man is strolling in the forest, contemplating the meaning of life, wondering what is might be, when he sees, bounding down the track towards him, an enormous tiger, with an even more enormous grin on its face, licking its chops.

Putting aside his contemplations, he hot-foots it in the other direction. As the tiger closes upon him, the track comes to an end at the edge of a cliff, and without pausing for reflection, lest he become a little light lunch, he launches himself into the void.

Fortuitously, he is able to grab hold of a vine, which brings him up short against the cliff face with a thump. The tiger is quite put out, and putting out its claws reaches down to where he hangs, grazing the top of his head.

Once he has regained his composure, he decides to look down, where he sees some good news and some bad news. The good news is that the bottom of the cliff is only a few feet below him. The bad news is that there is another tiger with is paws up the cliff, about to take a lunge at him. He pulls his legs up as far as he can, so that this tiger is only able to graze his feet.

While thinking to himself, thank God for the vine, two little mice, a black mouse and a white mouse, creep out of a hole and begin to gnaw at its root. He decides it is time to make a general appraisal of his situation, with a hungry tiger above grazing his head, a hungry tiger below grazing his feet, and two voracious mice making his hold on the cliff face increasingly tenuous, and he says to himself, another fine mess you got me into.

At this point, he notices, a short distance from him along the cliff face, where the warm sun breaks through the forest canopy, there is a strawberry bush. And on this strawberry bush there is the largest, reddest, juiciest strawberry he has ever seen. In his extremity, he reaches out, plucks the strawberry, and puts it into his mouth. Ah!, he says to himself in delight, absolutely delicious!

Enlightenment :
"The man tasted to the tiger exactly as the strawberry did to the man." In other words, the man, the tiger and the strawberry are all one Self. The "illusion" of individuality is seen through. There is no soul, so there is no fear—no fear of death because there is no one there to die.

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Jika perumpamaan ini pernah didiskusikan. Ijinkanlah saya bertanya lagi apakah kesimpulannya (enlightenment) betul ?
Apa yang anda lakukan jika anda adalah orang tsb ?

Sori yah, tapi itu sih bukan enlightment, tapi ngaco.....
Konsep there's no soul jadi no fear seluruhnya dibuat oleh salah satu paham sesat dimana "tidak ada diri" sehingga tidak ada si pembuat

Konsep Tuhan anda juga termasuk salah satu dari 62 paham sesat kok..... silahkan anda baca di Dhammajala Sutta mengenai maha brahma yg mengklaim dirinya sebagai pencipta

Kembali ke cerita diatas :

2 harimau itu menggambarkan siang dan malam

moral of the story adalah manusia itu karena "moha" (batinnya bodoh) sehingga tidak tahu bahwa dirinya sebenarnya sedang menuju kematian
Karena itu, bukannya mencari bagaimana agar bisa lolos dari lingkaran kematian, dia malahan selalu mencari dan mencari kepuasan lagi

semoga ini bisa memperjelas makna cerita itu........

[Enlighted]

setuju sekali.......paten....markos

[gajeboh angek]

Brahmajala Sutta kali maksudnya om Markosaprawira..., bukan Dhammajala Sutta.

[Petrus]

Sori yah, tapi itu sih bukan enlightment, tapi ngaco.....
Konsep there's no soul jadi no fear seluruhnya dibuat oleh salah satu paham sesat dimana "tidak ada diri" sehingga tidak ada si pembuat

Konsep Tuhan anda juga termasuk salah satu dari 62 paham sesat kok..... silahkan anda baca di Dhammajala Sutta mengenai maha brahma yg mengklaim dirinya sebagai pencipta

Kembali ke cerita diatas :

2 harimau itu menggambarkan siang dan malam

moral of the story adalah manusia itu karena "moha" (batinnya bodoh) sehingga tidak tahu bahwa dirinya sebenarnya sedang menuju kematian
Karena itu, bukannya mencari bagaimana agar bisa lolos dari lingkaran kematian, dia malahan selalu mencari dan mencari kepuasan lagi

semoga ini bisa memperjelas makna cerita itu........

tidak ada diri tidak ada perasaan takut

paham sesat apa yah ?
jadi itu bukan contoh soal menghilangkan AKU 

[Lex Chan]

mirip cerita ini: http://www.thewisdom.com.tw/Big5/MoviePlay.phtml?FV_Id=27

[N1AR]

suhu artinya dong sekalian, gak bisa bacanya

[hatRed]

 [at] Petrus

neh g tulis ulang


Looking for the maker of this house, I ran to no avail through a string of many births, and wearisome is birth again and again. But now, maker of the house, you have been seen. you shall not raise this house again. All the rafters are broken; the ridgepole is shattered. The mind, approaching eternity, has attained the extinction of all desires.

nb: pakai nada puitis, kesannya akan lebih bermakna. (Banyak orang yg ingin mengatakan ini loh)

[Petrus]

[at] Petrus

neh g tulis ulang


Looking for the maker of this house, I ran to no avail through a string of many births, and wearisome is birth again and again. But now, maker of the house, you have been seen. you shall not raise this house again. All the rafters are broken; the ridgepole is shattered. The mind, approaching eternity, has attained the extinction of all desires.

nb: pakai nada puitis, kesannya akan lebih bermakna. (Banyak orang yg ingin mengatakan ini loh)

"Looking for the builder of the house
I ran to no avail through the cycle of many lives.
It is wearisome to be born again and again.
But now, o maker of the house, I have seen you;
never more shall you erect this house.
All your rafters are broken, the ridgepole shattered.
The mind released from its binding conditions,
has attained the joy of eternal peace (Nirvana)."

ini lebih baik, gampang bahasanya.
the builder/maker itu sama gak dengan Nirvana ?

[kullatiro]

yah gak sama lah the builder itu salah satu nya tanha didalam pikiran kita, dalam pikiran kita banyak sekali bentuk bentuk pikiran, banyak nya bentuk bentuk pikiran ini kadang kadang di salah artikan sebagai aku(ego)

[Petrus]

yah gak sama lah the builder itu salah satu nya tanha didalam pikiran kita, dalam pikiran kita banyak sekali bentuk bentuk pikiran, banyak nya bentuk bentuk pikiran ini kadang kadang di salah artikan sebagai aku(ego)

But now, o maker of the house, I have seen you;
never more shall you erect this house.

you itu siapa ?

[kullatiro]

you disini tanha juga karena tanha adalah pembuat, misalnya petrus menginginkan baju (misalnya yah kan bisa saja kue). nah di plototin deh tuh baju sampai terbawa mimpi. ini menjadi kemelekatan nah besok nya misalnya (amit amit yahh) you kecelakan gitu tapi pas lagi mejelang ajal pikiran nya melekat terus di baju itu.

maka petrus yang sekarang ada akan hilang dan mungkin lahir sebagi kutu di baju tersebut(karena keinginan yang melekat pada baju tersebut).

kan ada di nasarani tidak boleh mengidolakan sesuatu kenapa karena sebab ini lah (memang di nasarni lebih singkat)

[N1AR]

sori gak tau mau post dimana. jd disini aja
balibalihum            LEX CHAN sensei...........