transform?

[hatRed]

Dogen Zenji says, "To study the Buddha Way is to study oneself." How do we study ourselves? How do we practice ourselves? I say "we," but it is always singular. My life! Your life! The Buddha dharma, the One Body, is completely my life, completely your life. Shakyamuni Buddha himself found this out. That is why he said: "How wonderful! I and everyone in the universe is enlightened." Not just I, but everyone. That is what I means; I means everyone. But knowing this is not enough. That is why the words learn or study are not quite sufficient. They do not convey this sense of over and over and over. In other words, minute after minute, how do we live our life as the One Body, or the One Body as our life? No more, no less.

who is Dogen Zenji = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogen

[ENCARTA]

kalau saya "adalah sama dengan semuanya"

kenapa pencapaian arahat mesti tergantung pada diri sendiri,

saya rasa "saya dan semua yg dialam semesta mencapai pencerahan adalah"
bahwa buddha menemukan obatnya, tergantung diri kita sendiri mau meminumnya atau tidak
cuma kalau seperti menghilangkan atau pembebasan dualitas pikiran saya dan dia hm....
apa tidak terlalu sederhana..

[hatRed]

entahlah ini, mo dibawa ke Zen atau tidak..

kalau mao membahas dari sisi Zen, tentu saja "orang dapat berkata semaunya"

tetapi selama di diskusi umum.. i kasih pendapat aja

bila "How wonderful! I and everyone in the universe is enlightened."

maka seperti agama kr****n "Dengan lahirnya/tersalibnya yesus maka dunia terselamatkan"


satu lagi, kenapa Awal semua orang di semesta itu mendapat "pencerahan" pas saat Sakyamuni mendapat pencerahan?

apakah sebelum dia gak ada Buddha sebelumnya? dan apakah pencerahan Buddha sebelumnya tidak mencerahkan "everyone" ?

dan kalau semua "cerah" kenapa ada Buddha2 Selanjutnya?

[tesla]

misteri Zen

[Edward]

a butcher, and enlighted...
hah..what a great karmic!
can i fc*k all whores all over the street for mercy, compassion and still get enlightment?

[johan3000]

"let things be"

membiarkan apa adanya...

maksudnya spt : masing2 member memiliki karakter/sifat..
begitu juga ika_polim.. jadi biarkan itu apa adanya..
ngak usah report2 utk mengharap org lain berlaku sesuai
keinginan kita....

tapi kalau terlalu melenceng...
ya kena BAN (ban nya truk)...

kira2 begitu deh.... (spt ujian agama Buddha)

[Budhi26]

a butcher, and enlighted...
hah..what a great karmic!
can i f u c k all whores all over the street for mercy, compassion and still get enlightment?

The disciple asked: But butchers create karma by slaughtering animals. How can they be Buddhas?

Bodhidharma: I only talk about seeing your nature. I don't talk about creating karma.

Regardless of what we do, our karma has no hold on us. Through endless kalpas without beginning, it's only because people don't see their nature that they end up in hell. As long as a person creates karma, he keeps passing through birth and death. But once a person realizes his original nature, he stops creating karma. If he doesn't see his nature, invoking Buddhas won't release him from his karma, regardless of whether or not he's a butcher. But once he sees his nature, all doubts vanish. Even a butcher's karma has no effect on such a person.



Budhi.

[hatRed]

 [at] om Budhi26 tahun

seperti apakah "nature" itu yg bisa "dilihat" ?

[ENCARTA]

jadi seorang buddha boleh melakukan apa saja keinginan nya asal di sadari akan sifat nature itu ^^!

[dilbert]

ada orang yang ngerti dhamma tapi sesat... seperti ada oknum pengacara yang melek hukum tetapi mempermainkan hukum dengan mencari celah celah-nya...

[Edward]

so a Buddha can get away from karmic action?
i think u get it wrong of Bodhidarma statement...

Perlu diingat, dlm setiap statement ada makna implisit dan eksplisit...

Kalo u mencerap secara langsung kalimat tersebut, pikir deh, betapa bodohnya para bodhisatva dan para patriakh yg mengumpulkan parami dan melatih diri demi meraih pencerahan?

Kalo u maksud " nature" dlm artian Buddha nature, memank dlm term mahayana buddha nature ada di dalam semua makhluk, bahkan dalam makhluk binatang sekalipun...

Gw lebih melihat mksd dari pernyataan Bodhidharma bahwa, biarpun seorang penjagal, tetapi jika dia berlatih, dia pun akan dapat mencapai pencerahan...tetapi bukan bearti dy bisa lari dari hukum karma!

PS : eh, klo quote tulisan orang, jgn di edit sesuka lu! Tulisan dari gw , yg seorang biasa aja u edit sembarang, apalagi tulisan dari seorang patriakh?
Setiap tulisan gw, adalah hasil dari pemikiran gw! Hargai tulisan gw, dan jgn u quote dan edit sesuka lo!

[Budhi26]

[at] om Budhi26 tahun

seperti apakah "nature" itu yg bisa "dilihat" ?

It is beyond rational thinking. One should realize it by oneself.



Budhi.

[Budhi26]

 [at]  bro edward :

CMEIIW, but ... tidak perlu tendensius ya.




Budhi.

[7 Tails]

[at] om Budhi26 tahun

seperti apakah "nature" itu yg bisa "dilihat" ?

It is beyond rational thinking. One should realize it by oneself.



Budhi.

bisa kali, kasih bocoran sedikit

[Budhi26]

jadi seorang buddha boleh melakukan apa saja keinginan nya asal di sadari akan sifat nature itu ^^!

Buddhas don't do good or evil.



Budhi.