AJAHN BRAHM kontroversi

[dilbert]

punya saya ?

[Indra]

punya saya ?

udah juga

[dilbert]

udah juga

langsung berbuah juga...

[sanjiva]

Diatur dalam Vinaya DC kok

[will_i_am]

clicked buat semua yah...

[seniya]

All clicked too

[will_i_am]

kebetulan dapat quote bagus dari Ven. Ajahn Chah, gurunya Ajahn Brahm sendiri...

"It is not suitable for monks to be going around collecting money for building temples. It is better for monks to build (train) people, and then those people will build the temple themselves." -- Ajahn Chah

[adi lim]

kebetulan dapat quote bagus dari Ven. Ajahn Chah, gurunya Ajahn Brahm sendiri...

"It is not suitable for monks to be going around collecting money for building temples. It is better for monks to build (train) people, and then those people will build the temple themselves." -- Ajahn Chah

walaupun A. Chah bukan Buddha, tapi petuah ini bisa jadi rujukan utk yang mengaku murid A. Chah.

[ryu]

kebetulan dapat quote bagus dari Ven. Ajahn Chah, gurunya Ajahn Brahm sendiri...

"It is not suitable for monks to be going around collecting money for building temples. It is better for monks to build (train) people, and then those people will build the temple themselves." -- Ajahn Chah

masih bisa dibuat pembenarannya kok, AB khan "build (train) people", tapi dengan cara orang itu harus berdana "build temple", jadi sekali kayuh 2 pulau terlampaui, lebih hebat khan

[morpheus]

gak ada bhikkhu yang going around collecting money kok... jadi apa masalahnya?

[will_i_am]

gak ada bhikkhu yang going around collecting money kok... jadi apa masalahnya?

Esensinya ada di  "collecting money" om, bukan di "going around"



Coba bandingkan juga dengan bagaimana cara Ven. Ajahn Chah menyikapi dana yang tidak seharusnya diterima

Luang Por Chah did not need a fancy car:
Someone came to offer him a car at the monastery. Luang Por accepted it and told him to park the car behind his hut. But he never even went to look at it and when he went somewhere, he sat in someone else's car instead. After seven days, he called someone and told him: "Go and tell that man to come to get his car back. We accepted it already and he got the merit. Now we return the car because it is not something that monks can own."

[adi lim]

Esensinya ada di  "collecting money" om, bukan di "going around"

sent GRP kok

[ryu]

Esensinya ada di  "collecting money" om, bukan di "going around"



Coba bandingkan juga dengan bagaimana cara Ven. Ajahn Chah menyikapi dana yang tidak seharusnya diterima

yang collecting bukan AB tapi orang lain an AB, jadi ga ada pelanggaran, intinya itu, dimanfaatkan khan ga apa2 pake nama AB biar dananya lebih banyak.

[morpheus]

Esensinya ada di  "collecting money" om, bukan di "going around"

gak ada bhikkhu yang collecting money kok... jadi apa masalahnya?

[adi lim]

gak ada bhikkhu yang collecting money kok... jadi apa masalahnya?

yang bilang Bhikkhu colleting money siapa ya ?

yang ada AB membantu pelelangan kok, supaya para peserta lelang lebih seru utk merebut barang yang dilelang kok !, jadi tidak ada pelanggaran vinaya kok, jadi apa masalahnya !
hasil pelelangan untuk kebaikan kok ! jadi apa masalahnya !