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nama asli master adalah : Jun Hong Lu (Chinese: 盧軍宏; pinyin: Lú Jūnhóng, born 4 August 1959) is the Chairman and Director of Australia Oriental Media Buddhist Charity Association registered...

disini member2 bisalah bantu share segala hal ttg XLFM.....tapi tentu bukan cuma menjelek-jelekan, menghakiimin suatu aliran....bila menurut anda ada yg salah ttg aliran tsb...jelaskan alasan nya kenapa...lebih baik dpt didukung "bukti" maupun pengalaman pribadi.....jadi bahaslah sesuatu yg bermanfaat.....spt bagaimana sesuatu itu dpt membantu anda....


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Memang yang nama keluarnya Lu itu memang hebat, contohnya master Lu ini, terus master Lu Sheng Yen...
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Lu tau gak knp mereka hebat?
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liat aja segitu banyak orang. nasi bungkus pun mahal segitu.
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Memang yang nama keluarnya Lu itu memang hebat, contohnya master Lu ini, terus master Lu Sheng Yen...

ohh klo master LU yg lain ada disini...silahkan aja pilih yg mana..

https://dhammacitta.org/forum/index.php?topic=17326.7200
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semoga ada yg mulai membahas...ttg XLFM......(spt kartu XL...dgn gelombang radio FM)......

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tentu FB nya xlfm...yg di Indo dgn nama keren pula...


Indonesia Xin Ling Fa Men Buddha Institute

kitapun mulai bertanya tanya apakah ini sejenis institute of Technology...dimana kita bisa belajar hal2 tentang seputar komputer atao hal2 sosMed.....tentang ethicnya posting di wall nya FB orang lain.....silahkan nyangKEM...(speakUp)...
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Statement Regarding “Lu Jun Hong’s Function in Malaysia” 「盧軍宏台長訪馬」一事之文告
February 22, 2014 at 1:43pm
Joint Press Statement by Major Buddhist Associations in Malaysia

21 February 2014

 

Mr. Lu Jun Hong from Australia (Director of Australia’s Eastern Radio Station, also known as Director Lu), will be organizing a Q&A seminar regarding “A Summary on the Art of Mystery” on 2nd of March 2014 in Malaysia. In relation to this seminar, many Buddhist associations have received enquiries from the public on whether the contents of this seminar are in accordance with the real Buddhist teachings. Thus, the major Buddhist associations in Malaysia felt the need to clarify and reiterate the true Buddhist teachings in order to educate the public.

 

Buddhism has been propagated for more than 2500 years and Mahayana and Tibetan Buddhism have been inherited and developed for more than a thousand years. Every sutra and mantra consists of profound meanings and teachings to relieve the sufferings of sentient beings and such teachings should not be altered by any lay person.

 

The spiritual teachings advocated by Director Lu contains interpretations that are unknown in Buddhism, including opposing the transference of merits, indicating timings that are unsuitable for chanting, advocating that certain sutra and mantra can fulfill the different needs of devotees, advocating that the “heavenly way” is more invincible than the Buddha’s realm, sketching a small house and burning it after chanting to seek merits etc. Even though he cites many Buddhist sutras and mantras in his teachings, if one compares them to the real Buddhist texts, one will know that such teachings are not the real teachings of the Buddha.

 

Buddhist teachings emphasize on educating devotees to realize the true reality of the universe and human life and do not encourage greed and attachment to worldly pleasures. Buddhism emphasizes on benefiting oneself and others, one can transfer his or her merits to family, friends, the world and the Dharma realm. Focusing on these two points, Director Lu opposes such practice and limits the teachings of The Great Compassion Mantra and Heart Sutra within the pursuit of worldly merits, healing of diseases, and is against the act of transference of merits, thereby disregarding the main objectives of compassion and wisdom in Buddhism.

 

Apart from this, Director Lu specializes in interpreting dreams and Feng Shui and he claims to be able to converse with the Avalokitesvara Bodhisattva and thus he is rather popular among the public; some devotees even worship him as the incarnation of the Avalokitesvara Bodhisattva. Buddhism emphasizes on following the Dharma but not the individual, the practice of promoting personal worshipping is not encouraged in Buddhism.

 

Lastly, if you wish to know more about Buddhism and its cultivation methods, we would like to appeal to the public to participate in Dharma services and courses organized by major Buddhist Dharma centers, so that you will be on the right path and not be confused by the teachings of a cult. Should you have any enquiries, you may contact any Buddhist associations and Dharma teachers within the country.

 

Thus, the major Buddhist associations of Malaysia hereby release a press statement to ensure a correct understanding on this issue.

 

Joint Statement by:

Malaysian Buddhist Association

Young Buddhist Association of Malaysia

Malaysian Buddhist Dharma Propagation Association

Sri Lankan Buddhist Progress Association of  Malaysia

Malaysian Buddhist Vajrayana Association

Theravada Buddhist Association of Malaysia

Buddha’s Light International Association of Malaysia

Fo Guang Shan Malaysia

Fa Gu Shan Malaysia

Petaling Guan Yin Temple

Kuala Lumpur He Ming Zen Temple

https://www.facebook.com/notes/young-buddhist-association-of-malaysia/statement-regarding-lu-jun-hongs-function-in-malaysia-%E7%9B%A7%E8%BB%8D%E5%AE%8F%E5%8F%B0%E9%95%B7%E8%A8%AA%E9%A6%AC%E4%B8%80%E4%BA%8B%E4%B9%8B%E6%96%87%E5%91%8A/10152271605167329?stream_ref=10

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Q: apakah puska dharma yg diajarkan oleh XLFM utk penyembuhan penyakit, karir, masalah studi...hubungan manusia...?

A:
1 mengLafalkan Sutta
2 BERIKRAR melakukan kebajikan
3 PELEPASAN mahluk hidup (fangshen)


bgaimana menurut anda....menjanjikan ?

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Bantahan Terhadap Ajaran Xin Ling Fa Men (Versi Mahayana)

Question: You have probably heard of ‘Xin Lin Fa Men’ (观音心灵法门) by ‘Guanyin Citta Dharma Door’ Master Lu Jun Hong (卢军宏 or 卢台长). In his practice, after reciting Dabeizhou (Great Compassion Mantra) for karmic creditors, we are taught to burn ‘little house’ papers. Is it really necessary to do so? (This question is not linked to the picture.)

Answer: Lu’s group is a cult riding upon so-called ‘Buddhism’. Please do not follow his teachings. It is not true Buddhism as he teaches corrupted teachings. For instance, the practice of burning was never taught by the Buddha or any orthodox Buddhist teacher in history. It is an ecologically harmful and pointless new superstition. Many orthodox Buddhist organisations worldwide have spoken collectively against him. You must read these extremely important articles carefully, so as to not make the mistake of following such cults:

How To Awaken Those Tricked By ‘Buddhist’ Cults
https://thedailyenlightenment.com/2015/02/how-to-awaken-those-tricked-by-buddhist-cults
Are There Mediums & Manifestations Of Buddhas & Bodhisattvas Around?
https://thedailyenlightenment.com/2014/02/are-there-mediums-manifestations-of-buddhas-bodhisattvas-around

Question: Thank goodness I asked, for I almost joined as I was amazed by his ‘supernatural’ power. How does he have the power to heal people and know about their past and present lives?

Answer:
His so-called powers are not real at all. He does not know present lives. He makes wide and safe guesses, and if you observe carefully, he gets it wrong at times, but insists he is right. He does not know past lives. He speculates again and the foolish believe him – when his claims cannot be proved. He does not heal as he simply asks people to chant what Buddhists already should know, which of course naturally has healing effects when done properly.

However, he adds in nonsensical anti-Dharma teachings such as insisting that some general sutras should not be chanted at certain times, and that merits should not be dedicated. These and more confuse and trick people, distracting them from true Buddhism, while he gains fame and wealth by pretending to be special and offering special advice. He also markets himself to be a manifestation of Guanyin Bodhisattva, which all Buddhas taught to be equivalent to what Mara (the evil one) would support, as you can see in this article:

The Buddha’s Admonition Against Making False Spiritual Claims
https://thedailyenlightenment.com/2015/01/the-buddhas-admonition-against-making-false-spiritual-claims

Do also read the comments at https://thedailyenlightenment.com/2014/02/are-there-mediums-manifestations-of-buddhas-bodhisattvas-around to see analyses of his tricks (and collective statements denouncing his teachings). The crucial information is all there.

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Comment:

Dear Bro’s n Sis in the Dhamma , With due respect and of no offences intended ; I think u all should not misjudge or prejudge Master Lu as he has actually helps alot of those unfortunate and helpless people and change alot of perceptions of those who does not believe in karma. Many have now turn into a good devotees .He also does not seek material gains and everythings are free not like some cult asking money for every service etc. Please understand his good deeds and gives him ur blessing.
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Reply 1:

There is no misjudgement. All the comments above show how Lu is devious, abusing Buddhist teachings in the guise of helping people. Exactly because his guesses on past karma are either unprovable or proven inaccurate, he actually sows seeds of disbelief in karma too. There are some devotees who are now in mental institutions. Even if he does not seek wealth, his events require money of devotees to set up and their efforts to publicise. Not all cult masters want money. Some want fame, as part of the five desires. Please understand this and do not give him your support.
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【邪教『心灵法门』卢军宏的:冷读术】
【失败,失败,再失败, 简直是噩梦!】

卢军宏 到底有没有超能力? 神力?
或是他一直都在使用心理学的一种叫做『冷读术』的方式,支配,套取求助者的资料?
以便达到展现神通的伎俩?
大家不妨对照一番!

Interesting video with examples of Lu’s wrong predictions:
https://www.facebook.com/JusticeAlwaysLate/videos/484387655073443/

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Comment: Lu helped many by curing their serious illnesses without charging any fee.

Reply: There is no solid medically proven case of him having helped to cure anyone DIRECTLY. Some cult leaders are out for fame, not for money, because they are already rich enough. Also, his events involve much expenses and he prints many books. All these require money.

Comment: Lu told people to be kind. He is a serious vegetarian and asks his students to be too.

Reply: This is nothing special. All good Buddhist teachers speak of the above. Even some non-Buddhist teachers teach so. E.g. There are vegan Buddhist teachers who advocate veganism, which causes even MUCH less harm to sentient beings than merely being vegetarian – as animal by-products such as dairy milk, cheese, cream, eggs, honey, leather, gelatine, silk… require exploitation and eventual killing of countless sentient beings.

Comment: Lu told people not to be lustful. From the net, sometimes we find scandalous cases related to fake monastics.

Reply: This is nothing special. All good Buddhist teachers teach their students not to be lustful. All the cases above, since are related to fake monastics, do not involve proper good Buddhists, monastic or lay.

Comment: There are people who claim their serious illnesses were cured by following Lu’s instructions. Eg. In this video: ___ [link removed to prevent misleading readers].

Reply: Here is a detailed analysis of the video –

[1] The speech was read from a pre-prepared script. Person (in video) has been going around saying the similar, and might be planted to attract more devotees. There is no medical proof shown of his health before and after the claimed sickness, and none of Lu’s actual help.

[2] Anyone who practices proper Buddhist practices sincerely (such as Nianfo, veganism and animal liberation, followed by dedication of merits to all beings) might be able to be cured of serious illnesses if conditions allow. (But death is eventual for all.) This healing potential has always been there without Lu’s warped teachings. If a person happened to practise the right parts within what he teaches, there will be positive effects. However, Lu’s warped teachings have wrong parts that can have severe negative effects, as below. As most cannot tell which teachings are warped, Lu’s teachings should be avoided entirely. A glass of otherwise pure water with a drop of poison should be thrown away immediately, because the poison will eventually be swallowed.

[3] Person decided to go vegetarian for life. This of course creates immense merits that can dilute negative karma that condition illnesses. As above, vegetarianism or even better, veganism, is advocated by all good Buddhist teachers. It is not a special teaching of Lu. Meat-eating is also a common cause of cancer which the Person claimed to had. Removal of this cause of course leads easier to recovery.

[4] Person decided to practise animal liberation, as advised by his friends; not Lu. This of course creates immense merits that can dilute negative karma that condition illnesses. Proper animal liberation is advocated by all good Buddhist teachers. It is not a special teaching of Lu.

[5] It is spiritually dangerous to, as hinted in the video, to keep pining for and expecting healing from any practice – because it is the first Noble Truth taught by the Buddha that death is inevitable for the unenlightened. As Great Master Yinguang, the 13th Patriarch of the Pure Land Tradition taught, if there is clinging to healing, even on the deathbed, such attachment will bind one to the cycle of rebirth, instead of being able to reach Pure Land, much less attain healing or liberation: http://purelanders.com/2015/12/30/guidance-before-support-chanting-%E5%8A%A9%E5%BF%B5%E5%89%8D%E5%BC%80%E7%A4%BA-pure-land-passport-section-2 Healing is indeed possible but it should never be be clung to in an obsessive manner. Lu promotes his warped teachings centred on healing only, claiming success for ‘successful’ cases and lack of diligence on the part of devotees for all unsuccessful cases. Anyone can make such claims.

[6] Lu’s claim of being able to tell the Person had 3-6 months left to live cannot be proven accurate at all. It is way too wide a range too, hardly a proper prediction. Anyone can claim to be able to tell a seriously ill person to have a few months left to live if he or she does not do enough of this or that. As there is blind faith in him, of course, his claim is believed blindly. And of course, the Person did not die in 6 months at all (since the prediction was never accurate in the first place), even living to tell the tale of survival.

[7] Lu’s claim that the Person had lots of killing in his previous life, which led to having serious illness is common sense, as the most common cause of serious illnesses according to the Buddha’s teachings of karma is killing. It is not a special teaching of Lu.

[8] Lu’s claim that the Person killed a monkey, whose spirit is on his shoulder and able to kill him at any time cannot be proven at all. One might as well say to a serious sick person that he killed a cow in his previous life and his spirit is living in his cancer tumour. Of course, this too cannot be proven. It is an arbitrary claim.

[9] Lu’s teachings of the need to burn ‘little houses’ after chanting specific chants before specific times, without dedication of merits to anyone else is totally unfounded in the Buddha’s teachings. (Burning of much paper also creates negative karma from contributing to deforestation and pollution of the whole world.) All the proper Buddhist chants he advocated can actually be chanted at any time, and merits should be dedicated to all beings after as it is an essential Buddhist practice to benefit all, without need to meet arbitrary high quotas set randomly by him. His methods are warped attempts to advocate some special teachings, so that he can appear special, to have unique abilities and teachings, when they are warped instead. More on this is below.

[10] Person claimed to chant for one ‘little house’ after another, for fulfilling one wish after another. This is dangerous, as it can feed growth of greed for all kinds of worldly gains, including merely healing for health, while forgetting we will all die. This is how the spiritual goal of going towards Pure Land or for direct liberation is lost, thus trapping devotees in the rounds of rebirth.

[11] Person claimed that miracle happened which reduced swelling of legs and stomach, but this was after the doctor gave medication for it, also as claimed by himself. It is thus no clear miracle.

[12] Person said he will continue to spread hope to others through Lu’s teachings, saying Guanyin Bodhisattva will definitely save through them. Again, this is dangerous, as death is inevitable, as the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas remind many times in the sutras. Lu’s warped teachings falsely ride upon Guanyin Bodhisattva’s popularity, misrepresenting them. Before enlightenment is realised, true and total physical and mental healing occurs when Pure Land is reached. Lu is also receptive to the claim that he is a manifestation of Guanyin Bodhisattva, when Sakyamuni Buddha clearly taught that those who claim to be the enlightened in our era are on the side of Mara (the most evil demon in our world system): https://thedailyenlightenment.com/2015/01/the-buddhas-admonition-against-making-false-spiritual-claims

[13] Person claimed Lu’s three main teachings are to ‘make wishes, practise animal liberation and chant sutras’. Note that many other important aspects of pure Buddhist teachings are missing, such as learning the Dharma properly, dedication of merits and much more.

[14] Person claimed Lu’s teachings to be a new ‘Dharma door’ (Buddhist practice method). It is not so, as his teachings ride upon and warp proper teachings, having become a new cult distorting Buddhism instead, that confuses the masses. Person claimed Lu is a living Bodhisattva. He is not so, as he is more of a living Mara (or his equivalent), who have driven not a few people to mental breakdown, as below.

[15] Behind every deluded devotee such as the Person in the video, there are MANY others who have NOT created publicity videos, of how they have become confused and severely disturbed through Lu’s teachings, to a mentally dangerous stage. There are those chanting as instructed… without eating and rest, leading to poor mental and physical health, that affects work and family relationships. Some have even become hospitalised in mental institutes in Singapore. Some might already have mental ailments, that are not resolved by Lu, while some might have gone ‘crazy’ as Lu advocates NOT dedicating merits despite much chanting. If the affected really have supernatural problems, it is possible that unseen beings are hovering around hoping to receive merits but never get any, thus aggravating the problem that might be solved by dedicating merits. This is like waving spiritual ‘currency’ (merits) at the poor but not offering any. The poor might get angry and further disturb the ‘rich’. The ‘rich’ being disturbed only chants more for protection, but when stopping, gets further disturbed by the poor. This is how things can spin out of control. Even with lots of chanting, it does not lead to long term solutions; only leading to long term problems. Also, the chanters might be driven paranoid by Lu who suggests they MUST chant according to his requirements or else will stay troubled. Some even suggest his ‘little houses’ have dangerous occult properties that create disturbances. Again, note that use of them is not found in the Buddha’s teachings.

[16] The Singapore Buddhist Federation has come up with a warning for all on Lu’s teachings being unqualified to be considered Buddhism: http://tinyurl.com/sbfnotice1 Many of Malaysia’s Buddhist organisations have also banded together to denounce Lu’s teachings: http://tinyurl.com/ybamnotice1 Even China’s Buddhists have spoken up: http://tinyurl.com/saranotice1 If there are doubts on the above, these organisations should be consulted.

[17] Please read all the comprehensive information in the links in the main article above and here before commenting further. All comments promoting Lu’s teachings, clearly without reading all of the above will not be permitted here, lest there is confusion of readers. May all beings awaken to the Buddha’s true teachings. Amituofo

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Comment:
Lu never teach us to do something bad.

Reply: He teaches people to follow his wrong teachings blindly, such as rushing to meet stressful arbitrarily given chanting quotas, chanting without understanding, not dedicating merits, not chanting at certain times, burning papers… All these are NOT Buddhist practices. In fact, they are anti-Buddhist in spirit and letter. Those who think his teachings are right have obviously NOT learnt proper Buddhism yet. They should all the more stay clear and learn at proper Buddhist temples and centres. He also rudely and arrogantly demands all to believe in his wild, unverifiable and proven wrong guesses. There are people who have ended up in mental institutions because of him in more than one country due to the stress he gave them.

Comment: All he teach us is straight method.

Reply: No – he is a crafty con-man who lacks the straightforward mind, by making the great false claim (i.e. lying) that he is Guanyin Pusa, which is forbidden by the Buddha unequivocally: https://thedailyenlightenment.com/2015/06/how-to-be-free-from-demonic-obstacles This as taught by the Buddha to be enough to be reborn into hell later: https://thedailyenlightenment.com/2015/01/the-buddhas-admonition-against-making-false-spiritual-claims The Buddha also forbade the use of false and true supernormal power to attract people to learn the Dharma: https://thedailyenlightenment.com/2011/06/when-are-miracles-appropriate In Lu’s case, he obviously has no actual power at all, which makes his ‘display’ ethically worse.

Comment: He didn’t create a new dharma. All the dharma is basically what we all know.

Reply: This is false. He created new wrong rules such as the above, that distort the Dharma severely. If he did not create wrong teachings, the whole orthodox Buddhist world would be be against his evil ways. Prominent Buddhist federations in Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Malaysia and more have spoken against him clearly.

To understand more on what is wrong with Lu’s nonsense, many related links on the evils of Lu can be seen by scrolling at http://www.fb.com/DharmaProtectionFellowship

Comment: We need to embrace emptiness in our lives, rather than being judgmental and attached in our views of right and wrong in the world.

Reply: Why not embrace killers then, and not let lawful court judge their killing as wrong, and let them go scott free to do more harm? The Buddha taught clearly on right and wrong. This is why the Precepts are taught in detail.

Comment: Sometimes, right and be wrong, right can be right.

Reply: Right is always right – whatever arises from generosity, compassion and wisdom. Wrong is always wrong – whatever arises from greed, hatred and delusion. This is basic Buddhism.

Comment: Always be mindful of the Skilful Means in the teachings of Buddhism.

Reply: Skilful means are never at the expense of giving in to greed, hatred and delusion.

Comment: The most important question to ask is: What is the intention of Lu Jun Hong in his work?

Reply: Anyone with sufficient intelligence can see that he is out to feed is ego (for fame, and donations for sponsoring his materials and events), as seen in his unrepentant proven lies from wild and wrong guesses. This is greed. And when said to be wrong, he is angry. This is hatred. And his portrayal of many key Buddhist principles are wrong. This is delusion. Thus, he has all three poisons, that are intense.

Comment: One thing is for sure, being angry, judgemental and criticize others reflects poorly on ourselves.

Reply: Lu is guilty of being judgemental with his wrong guesses that he insists are right. Yes, he is habitually angry, rude and scares people with his nonsense too. It truly reflects poorly on him.

Sumber:
https://thedailyenlightenment.com/2015/03/how-to-use-the-anti-buddhist-cult-articles-here/
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