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[Riky_dave]

Atau lebih bagus lagi, kita bilang pekerjaan sebagai artis akan masuk neraka, seperti yang dikatakan Sang Buddha kepada Talaputta.

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Talaputa Sutta (SN 42.2)

on one occasion the Blessed One was staying near Rajagaha in the Bamboo Grove, the Squirrel's Sanctuary.

Then Talaputa, the head of an acting troupe, went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed down to him, sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One: "Lord, I have heard that it has been passed down by the ancient teaching lineage of actors that 'When an actor on the stage, in the midst of a festival, makes people laugh & gives them delight with his imitation of reality, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of the laughing devas.' What does the Blessed One have to say about that?"

"Enough, headman, put that aside. Don't ask me that."

A second time... A third time Talaputa, the head of an acting troupe, said: "Lord, I have heard that it has been passed down by the ancient teaching lineage of actors that 'When an actor on the stage, in the midst of a festival, makes people laugh & gives them delight with his imitation of reality, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of the laughing devas.' What does the Blessed One have to say about that?"

"Apparently, headman, I haven't been able to get past you by saying, 'Enough, headman, put that aside. Don't ask me that.' So I will simply answer you. Any beings who are not devoid of passion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of passion, focus with even more passion on things inspiring passion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Any beings who are not devoid of aversion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of aversion, focus with even more aversion on things inspiring aversion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Any beings who are not devoid of delusion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of delusion, focus with even more delusion on things inspiring delusion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Thus the actor — himself intoxicated & heedless, having made others intoxicated & heedless — with the breakup of the body, after death, is reborn in what is called the hell of laughter. But if he holds such a view as this: 'When an actor on the stage, in the midst of a festival, makes people laugh & gives them delight with his imitation of reality, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of the laughing devas,' that is his wrong view. Now, there are two destinations for a person with wrong view, I tell you: either hell or the animal womb."

When this was said, Talaputa, the head of an acting troupe, sobbed & burst into tears. [The Blessed One said:] "That is what I couldn't get past you by saying, 'Enough, headman, put that aside. Don't ask me that.'"

"I'm not crying, lord, because of what the Blessed One said to me, but simply because I have been deceived, cheated, & fooled for a long time by that ancient teaching lineage of actors who said: 'When an actor on the stage, in the midst of a festival, makes people laugh & gives them delight with his imitation of reality, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of the laughing devas.'

"Magnificent, lord! Magnificent! Just as if he were to place upright what was overturned, to reveal what was hidden, to show the way to one who was lost, or to carry a lamp into the dark so that those with eyes could see forms, in the same way has the Blessed One — through many lines of reasoning — made the Dhamma clear. I go to the Blessed One for refuge, to the Dhamma, and to the Community of monks. May the Blessed One remember me as a lay follower who has gone to him for refuge, from this day forward, for life."

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[chingik]

Maaf, Inggris sy agak jebol hehe..., pls rekan2 lain bantuin ya.

[Riky_dave]

Gk ad yg b.ind ya???

[chingik]

kalo baca pelan2 bisa lah nangkap intinya, dibantu ama kamus dikit2 juga nge.
Gw yg inggris jebol juga ga terlalu sulit memahaminya. hehe..

[Riky_dave]

Hehehe...

[Umat Awam]

Satu ketika Yang Tercerahkan, sedang berdiam di dekat Rajagaha, di Hutan Bambu, tempat hidupnya binatang tupai [??] 

Lalu talaputa, si kepala rombongan pertunjukan, menghadap kepada yang Tercerahkan, bersujud dihadapannya dan kemudian duduk disatu sisi. Setelah dia duduk disatu sisi, Ia berkata kepada Yg Tercerahkan : "Bhante, Saya pernah mendengar kalo itu telah diturunkan melalui silsilah ajaran tua para aktor  'ketika aktor di atas panggung ditengah suatu festival, membuat banyak orang tertawa dan memberikan mereka kesenangan dengan acting nya, dan setelah berakhirnya tubuh, setelah kematian, mereka lahir di perkumpulan dewa tertawa.' apakah yg dimaksud dengan hal itu, bhante?"

"Cukup talaputa, lupakanlah hal itu, janganlah engkau bertanya kepadaku ttg hal itu."

untuk kedua dan ketiga kalinya talaputa bertanya lagi kpd yg tercerahkan : "Bhante, Saya pernah mendengar kalo itu telah diturunkan melalui silsilah ajaran tua para aktor  'ketika aktor di atas panggung ditengah suatu festival, membuat banyak orang tertawa dan memberikan mereka kesenangan dengan acting nya, dan setelah berakhirnya tubuh, setelah kematian, mereka lahir di perkumpulan dewa tertawa.' apakah yg dimaksud dengan hal itu, bhante?"

Baiklah Talaputa, aku tidak dapat menghentikanmu dengan ucapan 'Cukup talaputa, lupakanlah hal itu, janganlah engkau bertanya kepadaku ttg hal itu.' Karena itu saya akan menjawab pertanyaanmu.

yg dibawah ini binun terjemahinnya
Any beings who are not devoid of passion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of passion, focus with even more passion on things inspiring passion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Any beings who are not devoid of aversion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of aversion, focus with even more aversion on things inspiring aversion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Any beings who are not devoid of delusion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of delusion, focus with even more delusion on things inspiring delusion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Thus the actor -- himself intoxicated & heedless, having made others intoxicated & heedless -- with the breakup of the body, after death, is reborn in what is called the hell of laughter. But if he holds such a view as this: 'When an actor on the stage, in the midst of a festival, makes people laugh & gives them delight with his imitation of reality, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of the laughing devas,' that is his wrong view. Now, there are two destinations for a person with wrong view, I tell you: either hell or the animal womb."

Ketika sabda tsb telah selesai di babarkan, talaputa, si kepala rombongan pertunjukan, tersedu-sedu dan meneteskan air mata. [Yang Tercerahkan bersabda:] "Itulah mengapa aku tidak dapat menghentikanmu dengan berkata, 'Cukup talaputa, 'Cukup talaputa, lupakanlah hal itu, janganlah engkau bertanya kepadaku ttg hal itu.' "

Juga binun terjemahkan
"I'm not crying, lord, because of what the Blessed One said to me, but simply because I have been deceived, cheated, & fooled for a long time by that ancient teaching lineage of actors who said: 'When an actor on the stage, in the midst of a festival, makes people laugh & gives them delight with his imitation of reality, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of the laughing devas.'

Silahkan yang lain terjemahkan lagi
"Magnificent, lord! Magnificent! Just as if he were to place upright what was overturned, to reveal what was hidden, to show the way to one who was lost, or to carry a lamp into the dark so that those with eyes could see forms, in the same way has the Blessed One -- through many lines of reasoning -- made the Dhamma clear. I go to the Blessed One for refuge, to the Dhamma, and to the Community of monks. May the Blessed One remember me as a lay follower who has gone to him for refuge, from this day forward, for life."

Sori inggris saya bener2 ancur, tp setidaknya saya berusaha membantu sebisa yg saya mampu.. semoga rekan2 yg lain bisa membantu memperbaiki lagi kalimat yg saya terjemahin,, dan menambahkan terjemahan yg blm bisa saya terjemahkan..

[gajeboh angek]

jadi begini loh : ada aktor, masih bersekutu dengan lobha, dosa, dan moha. dia membuat orang yang masih terikat lobha, dosa, dan moha, terinspirasi lebih lanjut dengan lobha, dosa, dan moha.
si aktor akan terlahir di alam neraka tertawa. tapi kalau si aktor berpandangan salah, dia beranggapan dia berbuat baik dan akan terlahir sebagai dewa tertawa, maka ada dua akibat yang mungkin terjadi kalau berpandangan salah : neraka, atau janin di rahim binatang.

contohnya gini, ada banyak artis kan? artis yang masih penghuni samsara, masih terikat ldm. kalo kita nonton mereka, biasanya kita akan terhanyut, terinspirasi oleh mereka.

tapi pada akhirnya Talaputta menjadi arahat, menjadi orang suci, karena dia menerima nasehat Sang Buddha.

[SandalJepit]

back to topic,
kalo menurut gue, film sun go kong why not? coba bandingkan dengan kisah Jataka. walaupun sungokong film fiksi penuh kahyalan, tetapi pada intinya mengajarkan ajaran Buddha. Dan melalui film sungokong juga banyak orang non-Budhist yang sedikit demi sedikit mengenal agama Buddha.
kalau kurang setuju dengan film sungokong, bagaimana kalau buat film Ayat-Ayat Cinta versi agama Buddha?

[Lex Chan]

jadi begini loh : ada aktor, masih bersekutu dengan lobha, dosa, dan moha. dia membuat orang yang masih terikat lobha, dosa, dan moha, terinspirasi lebih lanjut dengan lobha, dosa, dan moha.
si aktor akan terlahir di alam neraka tertawa. tapi kalau si aktor berpandangan salah, dia beranggapan dia berbuat baik dan akan terlahir sebagai dewa tertawa, maka ada dua akibat yang mungkin terjadi kalau berpandangan salah : neraka, atau janin di rahim binatang.

contohnya gini, ada banyak artis kan? artis yang masih penghuni samsara, masih terikat ldm. kalo kita nonton mereka, biasanya kita akan terhanyut, terinspirasi oleh mereka.

tapi pada akhirnya Talaputta menjadi arahat, menjadi orang suci, karena dia menerima nasehat Sang Buddha.

Jadi, Amingwati? Mas Jet Lee? Om Richard Gere? Bang Steven Seagal?

Padahal dulu aye sempat jadi pemain drama dan kepikiran mau jadi artis..

[nyanadhana]

apaan nama Amingwati dibawa-bawa hahahaha tak gigit ntar hauahhahaha......

sebenarnya membawakan kebahagiaan kepada orang lain adalah sebuah dana namun terkadang seorang aartis dituntut untuk lebih nyentrik dan nyeleneh bahkan membawa unsur lobha,dosa,moha, seperti tampil sexy, politik yang dibuat canda atau bahkan Dhamma yang dibuat-buat seperti filem Sun Bo Kong itu.

sebenarnya oke aja menjadi artis namun bisa tidak dia menjaga sikap dan silanya?

Kebahagiaan Tertinggi adalah Mengenal Dhamma dan Mencapai Nibbana.

[Sumedho]

kata kuncinya "Thus the actor — himself intoxicated & heedless"

[K.K.]

Any beings who are not devoid of passion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of passion, focus with even more passion on things inspiring passion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Any beings who are not devoid of aversion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of aversion, focus with even more aversion on things inspiring aversion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Any beings who are not devoid of delusion to begin with, who are bound by the bond of delusion, focus with even more delusion on things inspiring delusion presented by an actor on stage in the midst of a festival. Thus the actor -- himself intoxicated & heedless, having made others intoxicated & heedless -- with the breakup of the body, after death, is reborn in what is called the hell of laughter. But if he holds such a view as this: 'When an actor on the stage, in the midst of a festival, makes people laugh & gives them delight with his imitation of reality, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of the laughing devas,' that is his wrong view. Now, there are two destinations for a person with wrong view, I tell you: either hell or the animal womb."

Mahluk yang tidak bebas sama sekali dari keinginan, yang terikat belenggu keinginan, memusatkan keinginan lebih jauh dengan mengilhami keinginan yang ditampilkan oleh aktor di panggung, di tengah festival. Mahluk yang tidak bebas sama sekali dari kebencian, yang terbelenggu kebencian, memusatkan kebencian lebih jauh dengan mengilhami kebencian yang ditampilkan oleh aktor di panggung, di tengah festival. Mahluk yang tidak bebas sama sekali dari delusi (kegelapan bathin), yang terbelenggu oleh delusi, memusatkan delusi lebih jauh dengan mengilhami delusi yang ditampilkan oleh aktor di panggung, di tengah festival.
Oleh karena itu, aktor itu, mabuk dan lalai, dengan membuat orang lain mabuk dan lalai, setelah terurainya tubuh, setelah kematian, akan terlahir kembali di tempat yang dinamakan neraka tawa. Tetapi jika dia berpandangan seperti ini, "ketika aktor di panggung, di tengah festival, membuat orang-orang tertawa dan memberikan kesenangan dengan peniruan kenyataan, maka setelah tubuh terurai, setelah kematian, dia akan terlahir di antara deva tertawa", maka itu adalah pandangan salahnya. Ada 2 tujuan bagi orang dengan pandangan salah, saya beritahu: antara neraka atau rahim binatang.

"I'm not crying, lord, because of what the Blessed One said to me, but simply because I have been deceived, cheated, & fooled for a long time by that ancient teaching lineage of actors who said: 'When an actor on the stage, in the midst of a festival, makes people laugh & gives them delight with his imitation of reality, then with the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in the company of the laughing devas.'

Silahkan yang lain terjemahkan lagi Tongue
"Magnificent, lord! Magnificent! Just as if he were to place upright what was overturned, to reveal what was hidden, to show the way to one who was lost, or to carry a lamp into the dark so that those with eyes could see forms, in the same way has the Blessed One -- through many lines of reasoning -- made the Dhamma clear. I go to the Blessed One for refuge, to the Dhamma, and to the Community of monks. May the Blessed One remember me as a lay follower who has gone to him for refuge, from this day forward, for life."

'Saya tidak menangis, Yang mulia, karena apa yang telah dikatakan oleh Bhagava kepada saya, tetapi hanya karena saya telah dibohongi, ditipu dan dibodohi sejak waktu yang lama oleh ajaran turun temurun dari aktor yang mengatakan, "ketika aktor di panggung, di tengah festival, membuat orang2 tertawa dan memberikan kesenagan dengan peniruan kenyataan, maka setelah tubuh terurai, setelah kematian, dia akan terlahir di antara deva tertawa"'

'Luar biasa, Yang mulia, seperti halnya menegakkan yang terbalik, menemukan yang tersembunyi, menunjukkan jalan bagi orang yang tersesat, atau membawa lampu di dalam kegelapan agar mereka yang memilki mata melihat, begitu juga Bhagava, dengan kata2 pemikirannya membuat Dhamma jelas. Saya berlindung pada Bhagava, Dhamma dan Sangha. Semoga Bhagava mengingat saya sebagai pengikut perumah tangga yang telah berlindung padanya, mulai hari ini, seumur hidup'

[K.K.]

Di sini bukanlah masalah profesi sebagai aktornya, tetapi adalah 'pengembangan' Lobha, Dosa & Moha yang dilakukan dalam menjalankan profesi sebagai aktor, juga pengaruh Lobha, Dosa & Moha kepada penonton. Ini seperti sinetron yang suka melebih-lebihkan keadaan, menampilkan hal2 yang tidak bermakna yang secara menakjubkan diminati dan diikuti oleh para pemirsa. 
Tetapi, tidak semua aktor/aktris juga memfokuskan film pada Lobha, Dosa & Moha. Ada yang lebih bersifat inspiratif, ada juga yang menggunakan sebagai sarana menyampaikan pesan, ataupun ide2 kreatif.


Mengenai film apa yang boleh beredar ato tidak, itu kembali lagi pada manusianya masing2. Rasanya Buddhis tidak perlu dihebohkan oleh film apapun, seperti 'Da Vinci's Code' pernah menghebohkan kalangan tertentu. Semua juga kembali pada pikiran. Rasanya Sesame Street pun tidak cocok disiarkan di kalangan Paedophilia.

[gajeboh angek]

Rasanya Sesame Street pun tidak cocok disiarkan di kalangan Paedophilia.

Koq bisa kepikiran yah?

[Riky_dave]