How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?

[M14ka]

I have same problem too... I want to have private conversation lesson. Anyone have references teacher?
Anyway I have one of some interesting way to learn... Google translate can speak (press the "speaker" button) I like to ask people from different country spell my name. Sounds funny. wanna try? 

mulai bangun tidur, beol, makan sampai tidur lagi ngomong inggris terus.
nonton pelem inggris, baca buku inggris, dengerin audio book inggris, nulis catatan pake inggris, baca koran inggris, nonton berita inggris.

paling cepet backpack ke negara yang natively ngomong inggris selama 2-3 bulan.

jalan terakhir, cari pacar yang native speaker inggris.

tanda2 keberhasilan biasanya setelah anda mulai mimpi dalam bahasa inggris.

sounds like experienced 

[Mas Tidar]

ada 1 saran lagi, sebagai saran terakhir
kalau sering & suka baca koran sperti suara merdeka, jawa pos, republika atau kompas, mulai saat ini, dihentikan



[spoiler=diganti ...] dengan "Jakarta Post" (beli late edition sebagai pertimbangan budget)[/spoiler]

[juanpedro]

iya, banyak groginya om forte
thanks for you advices cc, I'll try them
ga tau juga sih condongnya kemana.. Tapi dosen native nya pada kebanyakan dari USA sih
oke, VOA *catet*
cuman sedikit temen yg juga mau ngomong using english sih, but I'll try it
aku maunya yang di bold ajaaaaa, siapa sinih yang mau berangkatin
Mimpi dalam bahasa inggris
makul phonetics kayaknya semester 5 deh..
what do you mean with "have the mind westernized"? Could you explain it more clearly please?

... is it like: "adoring western thing too much"
like thinking: "anything from the west is awesome, bla bla bla.
the east is so ancient"
and believing the media that
"the nato is the good guy, the middle east is the bad guy"
after a while you realize, that's just an extreme
go for the middle way

terima kasih wat sis bluppy dah bantu jelasin  n ngasih solusinya_/\_

wah saran dari teman-teman sangat beragam sekali. ane jadi tambah wawasan. trims

apapun cara yang ade CHL pilih, lakukan dengan semangat yah!

[juanpedro]

pas liburan ade bisa maen kesini:

http://kampung-inggris.com/

[rooney]

Untuk listening download audiobooks, sama sering2 nonton film yang pake bahasa english "asli", kek Harry Potter, LOTR, dll, pertama pakai sub english(sambil nangkep omongannya), kemudian nonton lagi, jangan pake sub lagi...
untuk film2 seperti Men In Black dll, englishnya udah ngaco....

Wkwkwk... Ngaco gmn mksdnya ?

[will_i_am]

yah banyak pake bahasa 'gaul'-nya

[Chen Hui Ling]

Well, this several weeka I have been watching Friends and I like to imitate the way they speak.. I think I have made some improvements in my listening and speaking skill

[Chen Hui Ling]

pas liburan ade bisa maen kesini:

http://kampung-inggris.com/

one of my friends in intro to language edu class said that he had joined at kampung inggris. However, he told that the curriculum was too old. I mean, they still use old way to teach English.

[juanpedro]

one of my friends in intro to language edu class said that he had joined at kampung inggris. However, he told that the curriculum was too old. I mean, they still use old way to teach English.

really? how old is old enough?

[Chen Hui Ling]

really? how old is old enough?

dunno
my friend who joined that program is sixers (angkatan 2006) and his speaking still so so, can we conclude that program didn't work?

[juanpedro]

dunno
my friend who joined that program is sixers (angkatan 2006) and his speaking still so so, can we conclude that program didn't work?

probably for him, not others

[DNA]

 

[will_i_am]

dunno
my friend who joined that program is sixers (angkatan 2006) and his speaking still so so, can we conclude that program didn't work?

[Chen Hui Ling]

brother, in my faculty, there are still a lot of old star.. If they can't finish their study in 7 years, they will do readmisi. They have to pay SPP and uang gedung again as new students, have a new NIM as new student, but they can still do their thesis.. there is no DO in my univerity

There is one fourers (angakatn 2004) who still doesn't finish his study yet and now he joined as twelvers member

[will_i_am]

brother, in my faculty, there are still a lot of old star.. If they can't finish their study in 7 years, they will do readmisi. They have to pay SPP and uang gedung again as new students, have a new NIM as new student, but they can still do their thesis.. there is no DO in my univerity

There is one fourers (angakatn 2004) who still doesn't finish his study yet and now he joined as twelvers member

wow....
I should have praise that man for his great effort (not to mention his lack in study)
If it were me, I should just give up already....