Buddhist, mengapa kalian mengkritisi Krizten ?

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Indra

Quote from: Judah on 16 October 2012, 11:23:51 AM
Masih "nyampah?"

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ku tak berdaya, tak mampu berkata2 lagi ... lala ...la ..la
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Isaacus Newtonus

Quote from: emulio on 16 October 2012, 11:18:06 AM
Halo juga Isaac...

1. Agama saya adalah kebaikan dan kebenaran :)

Dan tidak.....saya tidak sepotong-sepotong, karena saya sudah berbulan-bulan research sebelum akhirnya yakin untuk meninggalkan kekr****nan. Ketika pertama kali research, persepsi saya masih dikekang K yang terbenar. Namun perlahan-lahan terkikis dengan begitu banyaknya hal yang tidak pas dengan Realita dalam ajaran K.


Hehehe.

Jadi benarlah dugaan saya bahwa bro hanya seperti seorang yang melihat matahari terbenam lalu berkata "batahari yang mengelilingi bumi". Benar bahwa bro melakukan "research", tetapi sayangnya research bro tidak memadai. Lihat saja tuh contohnya tentang biji moster (mustard).


Quote from: emulio on 16 October 2012, 11:18:06 AM
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2. Tentang nubuatan, cocologi berperan di sini. saya ambil contoh misalnya Wahyu, itu sebenarnya adalah cerita Yohanes tentang Kaisar Nero di Roma. Dia memakai bahasa simbolis di sana.
Google saja apa kira-kira tanggapan para atheist tentang nubuatan-nubuatan K. Kalau berkenan, nanti saya post linknya lewat message.
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"Cocologi" bagaimana bro? Bro mengerti tidak yang saya maksudkan? Atau jangan-jangan bro -- sekalipun mengaku pernah di agama K -- tidak tahu diamana ayatnya? Bro terlalu bernafsu mencari ayat-ayat 'salah' saja sih.

Saya sedang bahas Daniel, bukan Wahyu. Fokus dulu bro. Itu bisa dibahas kemudian.


Quote from: emulio on 16 October 2012, 11:18:06 AM
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3. Eh...message saya yang tempoe doeloe gak dibales?

Gimana mau dibalas, PM bro penuh. Post melalui PM terbatas.


tuesday



emulio

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Quote from: Isaacus Newtonus on 16 October 2012, 11:31:05 AM
Hehehe.

Jadi benarlah dugaan saya bahwa bro hanya seperti seorang yang melihat matahari terbenam lalu berkata "batahari yang mengelilingi bumi". Benar bahwa bro melakukan "research", tetapi sayangnya research bro tidak memadai. Lihat saja tuh contohnya tentang biji moster (mustard).


"Cocologi" bagaimana bro? Bro mengerti tidak yang saya maksudkan? Atau jangan-jangan bro -- sekalipun mengaku pernah di agama K -- tidak tahu diamana ayatnya? Bro terlalu bernafsu mencari ayat-ayat 'salah' saja sih.

Saya sedang bahas Daniel, bukan Wahyu. Fokus dulu bro. Itu bisa dibahas kemudian.


Gimana mau dibalas, PM bro penuh. Post melalui PM terbatas.

1. Analogi matahari bukannya cocok ke kamu tuh. Soalnya kan bumi dianggap dome dan permukaannya bulat seperti frisbee. ;D
Dan apakah kamu udah mempelajari yang lain selain bersembunyi di balik apologetika?

2. Yang Daniel? Kalau saya send message aja, nyampe ga ke kamu?
Soalnya nanti kalau bahas kesalahan Alkitab di sini akan melebar topiknya.

3. Ooohh...baiklah. Emang berapa sih limitnya? Saya kayanya kirim ga banyak-banyak amat deh.
Tapi baiklah ini saya post tentang sunat waktu itu.

Furthermore, assuming the claim is true, what about the fact that the blood-clotting systems in different newborns would be expected to mature at different rates?  What about those newborns whose clotting factors had not reached the proper concentrations by day eight?  Presumably they were just another accepted casualty of the p*n*s trimming business.

More to the point, I can find no support for this eight-day optimal prothrombin level in the medical literature.  This claim only appears on some apologetic websites and appears to originate from an apologetic book written by one apologetic doctor.  According to a reliable medical source (See here.), "The newborn coagulation system matures to adult concentrations and functions over 6 months..." and "prothrombin levels lag behind adult concentrations by 20% into childhood..."  If prothrombin concentration is such a big deal, why not wait until these babies had reached adulthood at which time the clotting system would be fully mature and they would have the added benefit of deciding for themselves whether they wanted their p*n*s carved or not?


Ini link medicalnya:
http://books.google.co.id/books?id=ymuHmUWuUsAC&pg=PA304&lpg=PA304&dq=prothrombin+levels+in+newborns&source=bl&ots=R9aAGSLySU&sig=R9H2urcyOEejJ8eHBUHD10sX6Dw&hl=en&ei=CA-rSeDXI5W6tweCoqTfDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=prothrombin%20levels%20in%20newborns&f=false

Buddha's teachings summed in one word: Awareness.

Judah

Quote from: Isaacus Newtonus on 16 October 2012, 11:31:05 AM
Hehehe.
Jadi benarlah dugaan saya bahwa bro hanya seperti seorang yang melihat matahari terbenam lalu berkata "batahari yang mengelilingi bumi". Benar bahwa bro melakukan "research", tetapi sayangnya research bro tidak memadai. Lihat saja tuh contohnya tentang biji moster (mustard).

"Cocologi" bagaimana bro? Bro mengerti tidak yang saya maksudkan? Atau jangan-jangan bro -- sekalipun mengaku pernah di agama K -- tidak tahu diamana ayatnya? Bro terlalu bernafsu mencari ayat-ayat 'salah' saja sih.
Saya sedang bahas Daniel, bukan Wahyu. Fokus dulu bro. Itu bisa dibahas kemudian.

Gimana mau dibalas, PM bro penuh. Post melalui PM terbatas.

Setau saya emulio lewat kesaksiannya tidak pernah mengaku dia krizten? Mungkin saya salah, dia bersekolah di sekolah krizten, tapi masalah dia pernah jadi krizten, tidak pernah dijelaskan. Kalau memang bro isaac ada link kesaksianya silakan.

Semoga berkenan... :)
Apakah setiap orang mencari jalan yang benar? Tentunya butuh pengorbanan

Indra

Quote from: Isaacus Newtonus on 16 October 2012, 11:37:34 AM
Coba bro cari dengan kata kunci "mustard tree". Ini satu contohnya.
http://www.ehow.com/facts_7154132_blooming-mustard-tree.html


Mustard Tree Facts
By Brenda Priddy, eHow Contributor , last updated December 20, 2011
A mustard tree is a small tree or bush that grows in the Middle East and Africa. The tree can also grow in the United States in dry, hot climates. The mustard tree does not produce mustard seeds used to make mustard products, but rather produces a fleshy fruit that is very sweet. The mustard tree has many other names, and caring for the tree is simple.


Read more: Mustard Tree Facts | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_6469078_mustard-tree.html#ixzz29QzPPQyI

Isaacus Newtonus

Quote from: Indra on 16 October 2012, 11:48:50 AM
Mustard Tree Facts
By Brenda Priddy, eHow Contributor , last updated December 20, 2011
A mustard tree is a small tree or bush that grows in the Middle East and Africa. The tree can also grow in the United States in dry, hot climates. The mustard tree does not produce mustard seeds used to make mustard products, but rather produces a fleshy fruit that is very sweet. The mustard tree has many other names, and caring for the tree is simple.


Read more: Mustard Tree Facts | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_6469078_mustard-tree.html#ixzz29QzPPQyI

Jadi yang mau dibahas sebenarnya apa-nya bro?

Indra

Quote from: Isaacus Newtonus on 16 October 2012, 11:54:20 AM
Jadi yang mau dibahas sebenarnya apa-nya bro?
A mustard tree is a small tree or bush

emulio

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Quote from: Indra on 16 October 2012, 11:48:50 AM
Mustard Tree Facts
By Brenda Priddy, eHow Contributor , last updated December 20, 2011
A mustard tree is a small tree or bush that grows in the Middle East and Africa. The tree can also grow in the United States in dry, hot climates. The mustard tree does not produce mustard seeds used to make mustard products, but rather produces a fleshy fruit that is very sweet. The mustard tree has many other names, and caring for the tree is simple.


Read more: Mustard Tree Facts | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_6469078_mustard-tree.html#ixzz29QzPPQyI

Dari link yang sama:

The mustard tree is not a tree at all but is classified as an evergreen shrub. The tree grows to about 20 feet high and has an irregular shape. It is nearly as wide as it is tall. The branches start to grow very low to the ground. The mustard tree leaves are oval and can be light or dark green depending on their age. Mustard tree flowers are green or yellow and grow in long tendrils. Fruit for the mustard tree is purple, with pink and purple seeds.
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Orang rancu dengan tree atau bush, tapi secara klasifikasi mustard digolongkan bukan tree. Kadang mereka ngomong small tree karena imej tree aja.
Tentunya tuhan semesta alam sudah tahu donk ya. Apalagi ketika dia bilang mustard seed benih terkecil dari semua benih.
Buddha's teachings summed in one word: Awareness.

Isaacus Newtonus

Quote from: emulio on 16 October 2012, 11:55:41 AM
Dari link yang sama:

The mustard tree is not a tree at all but is classified as an evergreen shrub. The tree grows to about 20 feet high and has an irregular shape. It is nearly as wide as it is tall. The branches start to grow very low to the ground. The mustard tree leaves are oval and can be light or dark green depending on their age. Mustard tree flowers are green or yellow and grow in long tendrils. Fruit for the mustard tree is purple, with pink and purple seeds.
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Orang rancu dengan tree atau bush, tapi secara klasifikasi mustard digolongkan bukan tree. Kadang mereka ngomong small tree karena imej tree aja.
Tentunya tuhan semesta alam sudah tahu donk ya. Apalagi ketika dia bilang mustard seed benih terkecil dari semua benih.

QuoteA mustard tree is a small tree or bush

hehehe.

Kalian ini sebenarnya lagi ngomongin apa?

Ibaratnya, kalian ini sedang ngomong football di Inggris atau football di Amerika?

Indra

Quote from: Isaacus Newtonus on 16 October 2012, 12:03:30 PM
hehehe.

Kalian ini sebenarnya lagi ngomongin apa?

Ibaratnya, kalian ini sedang ngomong football di Inggris atau football di Amerika?

maksudnya mustard tree yg mirip beringin itu cuma ada di surga?

Isaacus Newtonus

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Quote from: Indra on 16 October 2012, 12:06:22 PM
maksudnya mustard tree yg mirip beringin itu cuma ada di surga?

Nah, ini tambah aneh lagi. Belajar dulu bro baru buat kesimpulan. Atau kalau belum jelas, lebih baik membuat pertanyaan daripada membuat pernyataan. (dan kalau buat pertanyaan, jangan ngawur seperti yang diatas)

Judah

Quote from: Isaacus Newtonus on 16 October 2012, 12:10:36 PM
Nah, ini tambah aneh lagi. Belajar dulu bro baru buat kesimpulan. Atau kalau belum jelas, lebih baik membuat pertanyaan daripada membuat pernyataan. (dan kalau buat pertanyaan, jangan ngawur seperti yang diatas)

Mungkin yang dimaksud bro isaac itu Brassica Nigra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_nigra

Semoga mencerahkan... ;)
Apakah setiap orang mencari jalan yang benar? Tentunya butuh pengorbanan

Indra

Quote from: Judah on 16 October 2012, 12:13:59 PM
Mungkin yang dimaksud bro isaac itu Brassica Nigra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_nigra

Semoga mencerahkan... ;)

dari link itu
"The plant itself can grow from two to eight feet tall, with racemes of small yellow flowers. These flowers are usually up to 1/3" across, with four petals each. The leaves are covered in small hairs; they can wilt on hot days, but recover at night."

2 feet = 60cm, 8 feet=240cm, sedikit lebih tinggi dari manusia normal, kesimpulan: bush