Fakta Fakta tentang Theravada

[Triyana2009]

Namo Buddhaya,

berarti Vibhajyavada memang diragukan tidak pernah ada... Jadi memang Theravada tidak ada hubungannya dengan Vibhajyavada ? ? ?
Itu pengertian saya setelah menterjemahkan dari Bahasa Inggris... CMIIW (Correct me if i'm wrong)... Can You Correct yourself if you wrong ? hahahahahaha

Fakta-fakta tentang Theravada :

1. The Theravāda school is fundamentally derived from the Vibhajjavāda (or "doctrine of analysis") grouping.

2. The Theravadan accounts of its own origins mention that it received the teachings that were agreed upon during the Third Buddhist Council, and these teachings were known as the Vibhajjavada.

3. In ancient India, those schools that used Sanskrit as their religious language referred to this school as the Sthaviras, but those that use Pali as their religious language referred to this school as the Theras. Both Sthaviras and Theras both literally mean "the Elders". The school has been using the name Theravada for itself in a written form since at least the 4th century, when the term appears in the Dipavamsa.

3. Xuanzang wrote of two major divisions of Theravāda in Sri Lanka, referring to the Abhayagiri tradition as the "Mahāyāna Sthaviras," and the Mahāvihāra tradition as the "Hīnayāna Sthaviras." = Tanya kenapa kedua-duanya Sthavira yang menggunakan bahas Sanskrit bukan Pali ?

4. Akira Hirakawa notes that the surviving commentaries (Aṭṭhakathā) of the Mahāvihāra sect, when examined closely, also include a number of positions that agree with Mahāyāna teachings. = Tanya kenapa ?

5. Some scholars have held that the rulers of Sri Lanka enforced orthodoxy to ensure that Theravāda remained traditional, and that this characteristic contrasts with Indian Buddhism. = Tanya kenapa ?

6. However, before the 12th century, more rulers of Sri Lanka gave support and patronage to the Abhayagiri Theravādins, and travelers such as Faxian saw the Theravādins of Abhayagiri as the main tradition.

7. This changed in the 12th century, when the Mahāvihāra gained the support of King Parakkamabāhu I (1153-1186 CE), and the Abhayagiri and Jetavana traditions were banned from Sri Lanka. = Tanya kenapa ?

8. The Theravāda monks from these two traditions were then given the choice of returning to the laity or seeking re-ordination under the Mahāvihāra tradition. = Tekanan Politik ?

9. Before the unification of Theravāda Buddhism in Sri Lanka, the areas of Thailand, Burma, Laos, and Cambodia were dominated by various Buddhist sects from India, and included the teachings of Mahāyāna Buddhism.

10. Though there are some early accounts that have been interpreted as Theravāda in Burma, the surviving records show that most Burmese Buddhism incorporated Mahāyāna, and used Sanskrit rather than Pali. = Tanya kenapa ?

11. After the decline of Buddhism in India, missions of monks from Sri Lanka gradually converted Burmese Buddhism to Theravāda, and in the next two centuries also brought Theravāda Buddhism to the areas of Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia, where it supplanted previous forms of Buddhism. = Bhikku-bhikku Sri Lanka meconvert Kaum Sthaviravada dan Mahayana ke Theravada ?

Ada politik disini, sehingga ajaran Sthaviravada dan Mahayana India yang menggunakan bahasa Sanskrit dirubah ke Pali oleh penguasa.

[adi lim]

Ada politik disini, sehingga ajaran Sthaviravada dan Mahayana India yang menggunakan bahasa Sanskrit dirubah ke Pali oleh penguasa.

benar juga ada politik,
kalau di amerika pakai politik Trias Politica

sesudah membaca teks bahasa Inggris (agak susah) 
kesimpulan sementara kalau cerita diatas pakai politik Triyana Dharmacakra 1. Vibhajjavāda, 2. Sthaviravada, 3. Mahāyāna Sthaviras

cerita diatas suka ada kata 'tanya kenapa' ? kesimpulan : muaaf, tidak bisa dijawab karena udah lama kejadian, tidak punya abhinna

jangan kabur diskusi belum selesai

[Triyana2009]

benar juga ada politik,
kalau di amerika pakai politik Trias Politica

sesudah membaca teks bahasa Inggris (agak susah) 
kesimpulan sementara kalau cerita diatas pakai politik Triyana Dharmacakra 1. Vibhajjavāda, 2. Sthaviravada, 3. Mahāyāna Sthaviras

cerita diatas suka ada kata 'tanya kenapa' ? kesimpulan : muaaf, tidak bisa dijawab karena udah lama kejadian, tidak punya abhinna

jangan kabur diskusi belum selesai

Jawab kagak, ngejunk saja kamu senangnya, tapi gak papa buat rame-rame lah......... 

[adi lim]

Jawab kagak, ngejunk saja kamu senangnya, tapi gak papa buat rame-rame lah......... 

ini yang namanya ngejunk toh 

suka suka saya donk 

jangan kabur dulu diskusi belum selesai 

[Kelana]

Namo Buddhaya,

3. In ancient India, those schools that used Sanskrit as their religious language referred to this school as the Sthaviras, but those that use Pali as their religious language referred to this school as the Theras. Both Sthaviras and Theras both literally mean "the Elders". The school has been using the name Theravada for itself in a written form since at least the 4th century, when the term appears in the Dipavamsa.

Namo Buddhaya,

Sebenarnya kalo mau jujur diurut menurut kronologis waktu Agama Sutra ada lebih dulu dari Nikaya Theravada karena Agama Sutra berdasarkan ajaran Sarvastivada yang lebih dulu muncul sebelum Theravada ada. Menurut perkiraan saya Agama Sutra menggunakan bahasa Parikrit yang merupakan Induk dari bahasa Pali. Semoga membantu.

Jadi berdasarkan jabaran di atas maka perkiraan anda yang mengatakan bahwa Agama Sutra menggunakan bahasa Prakrit adalah salah   

[Triyana2009]

Jadi berdasarkan jabaran di atas maka perkiraan anda yang mengatakan bahwa Agama Sutra menggunakan bahasa Prakrit adalah salah   

Ah males nanggapi, kamu belajar dulu ya tentang Parikrit kalo sudah selesai boleh debat sama saya

[adi lim]

Jadi berdasarkan jabaran di atas maka perkiraan anda yang mengatakan bahwa Agama Sutra menggunakan bahasa Prakrit adalah salah   

Ah males nanggapi, kamu belajar dulu ya tentang Parikrit kalo sudah selesai boleh debat sama saya

 
bro Kelana harus belajar dulu 

ingat ! jangan kabur dulu diskusi belum selesai

kesimpulan : para penghuni DC harus belajar dulu sebelum debat dgn jeng Tiyana 

[Triyana2009]

 
bro Kelana harus belajar dulu 

ingat ! jangan kabur dulu diskusi belum selesai

kesimpulan : para penghuni DC harus belajar dulu sebelum debat dgn jeng Tiyana 

Jangan nyampah terus disini anda, bikin thread sendiri terus nyampah dithread sendiri saja biar afdol, Tukang Nyampah ya kamu............

[Triyana2009]

Mana nih master Theravada kok pada ngumpet ?

[vendelta]

kalian nglagian debat apa sih?
gue kagak ngerti tuh.
ada yg parkit, burung parkit ya?
kalo burung perkutut? dan burung merbuk ada kagak?
kalo yg namanya burung rajawali itu sebenarnya ada kagak sih? kok gue kagak pernah liat ada burung kagak gituan.
kalo burung yg tanpa sayap, gue tau jenisnya, sejenis burung kakak tua, tapi bukan kakak tua namanya, tapi kakak manis rupawan, dan gue punya satu.
maaf, diskusi ato debat belum selesai dan jangan ngacir dari forum dulu,
soalnya gue tertarik soal jenis jenis burung dan berikut sarang sarang indahnya.

[Triyana2009]

Ayo Master Theravada silahkan dijawab, disini kebanyakan joker kali yak 

[rooney]

kalian nglagian debat apa sih?
gue kagak ngerti tuh.
ada yg parkit, burung parkit ya?
kalo burung perkutut? dan burung merbuk ada kagak?
kalo yg namanya burung rajawali itu sebenarnya ada kagak sih? kok gue kagak pernah liat ada burung kagak gituan.
kalo burung yg tanpa sayap, gue tau jenisnya, gue punya satu.

Maklum bro, ada yg lagi kasih copas opini tentang Theravada...

[vendelta]

Iyah, kita khan orang theravada, yg sayang akan burung, belum lagi terkenal program fang sen nya.
lha, khan gue termasuk penyayang burung dan pelestarian sarang sarang indah dari pelbagi burung burung.
nah, lho gue maju selangkah nih.
bukan hanya penyayang dunia fauna tapi termasuk suka melestarikan habitat burung burung lho. more than fang sen.

[Triyana2009]

Maklum bro, ada yg lagi kasih copas opini tentang Theravada...

Fakta sejarah kau bilang opini bisa baca apa tidak kau ron, mana nih dari Theravada yang lain tak tunggu ya 

[rooney]

Fakta sejarah kau bilang opini bisa baca apa tidak kau ron, mana nih dari Theravada yang lain tak tunggu ya 

Hey Triyana, itu fakta sejarah menurut sopo ? Kasih tau dong authornya... nanti saya komen beberapa yo