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Title: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: aitristina on 25 February 2011, 10:25:31 AM
what do u think?

If u ask me...

I would say...after 2 years past...wht I am had through, I would say YES!

how bout you....?

would u share in English?

Im waiting  _/\_
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: Lex Chan on 25 February 2011, 10:48:35 AM
To me:
being successful is getting what you want (whatever it is.. wealth, health, relationship, popularity, etc)
being happy is wanting what you get at the moment (although you don't get what you want yet)..  8)

"If you want to be happy, be"
~ Leo Tolstoy
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: K.K. on 25 February 2011, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: aitristina on 25 February 2011, 10:25:31 AM
what do u think?

If u ask me...

I would say...after 2 years past...wht I am had through, I would say YES!

how bout you....?

would u share in English?

Im waiting  _/\_
So what's your explanation? Why being poor makes you happy?
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: andry on 25 February 2011, 12:40:47 PM
 [at] ryu: ngomong naon iue teh?
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: M14ka on 25 February 2011, 09:00:09 PM
Why must use english to share, its not english corner :p but no problem i like english very much n sure i will use english to reply...

I'm not \(◦ˆ▽ˆ◦)/ to be poor, but I'm \(◦ˆ▽ˆ◦)/ to be with people i ♥ all the time n live happily ever after, no matter how hard the problem we'll face..
Coz money can't buy our happiness...(◦'⌣'◦)
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: ryu on 25 February 2011, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: andry on 25 February 2011, 12:40:47 PM
[at] ryu: ngomong naon iue teh?
teuing meningan urang ngariung deui yuk
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: Wijayananda on 25 February 2011, 09:57:54 PM
Quote from: M14ka on 25 February 2011, 09:00:09 PM
Why must use english to share, its not english corner :p but no problem i like english very much n sure i will use english to reply...

I'm not \(◦ˆ▽ˆ◦)/ to be poor, but I'm \(◦ˆ▽ˆ◦)/ to be with people i ♥ all the time n live happily ever after, no matter how hard the problem we'll face..
Coz money can't buy our happiness...(◦'⌣'◦)
Money can't buy everything..but everything need money..so money is important but not the most..
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: M14ka on 25 February 2011, 10:13:36 PM
 [at]  Wijayananda
U r right not the most, so why we always say "money is not everything, but everything needs money" why we dont just reserve it, "everything needs money, but money is not everthing"
By this sentence,we didnt so emphasize the importance of money..(◦'⌣'◦)
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: junxiong on 25 February 2011, 10:22:44 PM
what's important is can eat three meals a day, have a roof to shelter, have clothes to wear.
Those things need money, that's why it is important.

am I happy to be poor? no
don't have enough money to eat, to live, to wear~ I just don't like this idea

...
but do I need money to be happy? no I only need money to keep on living and raise family.
I am just very happy if I can do what I love to do~
:)
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: M14ka on 25 February 2011, 10:26:25 PM
 [at] junxiong
I agree wif u~ (=^____^= )
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: johan3000 on 25 February 2011, 11:11:43 PM
If anyone need to get poor so fast, please don't hesitate to ask for my help.
Transfer as much as you money to my bank account.

My services is 24 hours. It don't matter with what is your religions or believe.

I'm waiting.....do you said what you mean?
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: M14ka on 25 February 2011, 11:14:31 PM
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Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: Wijayananda on 26 February 2011, 09:19:58 AM
Quote from: M14ka on 25 February 2011, 10:13:36 PM
[at]  Wijayananda
U r right not the most, so why we always say "money is not everything, but everything needs money" why we dont just reserve it, "everything needs money, but money is not everthing"
By this sentence,we didnt so emphasize the importance of money..(◦'⌣'◦)
Only different perception to see the problem
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: Lex Chan on 26 February 2011, 09:37:30 AM
Quote from: M14ka on 25 February 2011, 10:13:36 PM
[at]  Wijayananda
U r right not the most, so why we always say "money is not everything, but everything needs money" why we dont just reserve it, "everything needs money, but money is not everthing"
By this sentence,we didnt so emphasize the importance of money..(◦'⌣'◦)

correction: every many things needs money 8)
coz sometimes we don't need money to get something, just use a brilliant idea..  :D
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: junxiong on 26 February 2011, 09:47:18 AM
yeah2 I can't more agree than Bro Lex Chan.. eg:

Free indomie : you can donate blood
Free lunch : go to Vihara on Sunday
Free live : you can stay in Vihara actually
Free television to watch : just go to your neighbour

(just joking  ;D )
Title: poor + ugly + stupid
Post by: johan3000 on 26 February 2011, 09:49:04 AM
are you happy to be
poor
ungly
and
stupid ?

can anybody help?
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: M14ka on 26 February 2011, 09:51:43 AM
 [at]  lex chan  Agreed!!
But i am not trying to say rich is not good, everyone want to be rich, so we can help poor people more...but dont use money to buy our happiness...♥·♡ τнänκ чöü ♥·♡ 
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: lia on 26 February 2011, 12:43:58 PM
Quote from: johan3000 on 26 February 2011, 09:49:04 AM
are you happy to be
poor
ungly
and
stupid ?

can anybody help?

i'm not poor, and also rich..I have a home but do not have palaces..
i'm not ugly, and also beautiful..I had eyes, nose, ears but I'm not an artist or model..
i'm not stupid, and also clever..I can read and write but I am not a professor..

I just try to love the simple life and always try my best..

sorry if my english is not correct :p
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: johan3000 on 26 February 2011, 01:00:29 PM
Quote from: lia on 26 February 2011, 12:43:58 PM
i'm not poor, and also rich..I have a home but do not have palaces..
i'm not ugly, and also beautiful..I had eyes, nose, ears but I'm not an artist or model..
i'm not stupid, and also clever..I can read and write but I am not a professor..

I just try to love the simple life and always try my best..   sorry if my english is not correct :p


Neither Nor
I am neither rich nor poor, but I have my sweet home.

eventhough
Eventhough I am not a professor, I can read any books.
Eventhough I am not a professor, I am capable of reading any books.


:))

Title: will you ?
Post by: johan3000 on 26 February 2011, 01:03:36 PM
Will you be happy for being
poor,
stupid,
ugly and
sick ?
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: tesla on 26 February 2011, 01:40:36 PM
poor has 2 meaning poverty & pity. poor cat = kucing yg kasihan. Poverty is the lack of basic human needs, such as clean water, nutrition, health care, education, clothing and shelter, because of the inability to afford them. wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty).

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i doubt if there is poor people in this forum.
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: Lex Chan on 26 February 2011, 03:57:09 PM
Quote from: tesla on 26 February 2011, 01:40:36 PM
i doubt if there is poor people in this forum.

yes, if you have internet access, probably you are not poor.. :-?
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: Mas Tidar on 26 February 2011, 09:29:09 PM
Quote from: aitristina on 25 February 2011, 10:25:31 AM
what do u think?

If u ask me...

I would say...after 2 years past...wht I am had through, I would say YES!

how bout you....?

would u share in English?

Im waiting  _/\_


Yes, I'm. Poor of desire makes me very happy  :)
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: junxiong on 27 February 2011, 12:50:47 AM
Kata-kata yang bagus Mas Tidar...  ^:)^
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: aitristina on 28 February 2011, 11:09:22 AM
thanks 4 asking mr KK.

Coz...when m poor in the support and  love of my fams...what else would be more beautiful?

coz im poor of knowledge, then i would start to learn n keep learning...

coz im poor of money, then i would work to have it...

coz im poor, after i hav some money, i will appreciate it by spending it wisely...

coz im poor, if one day i would be successful woman, I would appreciate every moment of being "more than others" and sharing them to those who needed.

how bout u...

Quote from: Kainyn_Kutho on 25 February 2011, 12:02:58 PM
So what's your explanation? Why being poor makes you happy?
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: Indra on 28 February 2011, 11:16:50 AM
coz im poor of money, then i would work to have it... by posting some money collection threads in DC hoping some idiots will send me money =)) =)) =))
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: aitristina on 28 February 2011, 11:21:04 AM
to bro tesla,

poor means a lottt...not only money, maybe wisdom, or knowledge...

i assume, every one here are not a BUDDHA and stil poor of DHAMMA

thats why , we keep learning about it.

do u agree?

Quote from: Lex Chan on 26 February 2011, 03:57:09 PM
yes, if you have internet access, probably you are not poor.. :-?
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: williamhalim on 28 February 2011, 11:35:51 AM
Subject: are u HAPPY to be POOR?

Quote from: aitristina on 25 February 2011, 10:25:31 AM
what do u think?
If u ask me...
I would say...after 2 years past...wht I am had through, I would say YES!
how bout you....?

Quote from: aitristina on 28 February 2011, 11:21:04 AM
to bro tesla,
poor means a lottt...not only money, maybe wisdom, or knowledge...
i assume, every one here are not a BUDDHA and stil poor of DHAMMA
thats why , we keep learning about it.
do u agree?

so, the 'poor' here, means poor of dhamma...
and you're happy for it ???

::


Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: tesla on 28 February 2011, 04:41:59 PM
Quote from: Mas Tidar on 26 February 2011, 09:29:09 PM

Yes, I'm. Poor of desire makes me very happy  :)
Quote from: aitristina on 28 February 2011, 11:21:04 AM
to bro tesla,

poor means a lottt...not only money, maybe wisdom, or knowledge...

i assume, every one here are not a BUDDHA and stil poor of DHAMMA

thats why , we keep learning about it.

do u agree?


sorry, i'm not

poor means a lottt...not only money, maybe wisdom, or knowledge...
no, poors means lack of basic needs. while money, wisdom, knowledge are not basic needs.

the more proper word for your sentense is lack, not poor...
lack can be applied for anything :)

lack of desire, lack of wisdom, lack of knowledge, so on...

if you can live on without those things, than you are not poor, simply you are lack of it (wisdom, knowledge, desire, money)... when comes to basic needs, one will die (or dying) without it, thats why we call them poor (also means pity) ;)
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: hardymika on 28 February 2011, 05:32:58 PM
it's hard to feel happy BECAUSE I'm poor (financially). It looks like I'm trying to relieve myself from the burden of being POOR.  ;D

I think happiness has little things to do with happiness. It depends on how much you cling on it (money).
I'm not guaranteed to be happy only because I have a lot of money or no money at all (poor me ^-^).

But I agree, worldly happiness depends much on money. So, if what you mean is worldly happiness, I guess it's hard for me to be happy BECAUSE i'm POOR ... instead, it seems like misery.
Title: Re: are u HAPPY to be POOR?
Post by: K.K. on 01 March 2011, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: aitristina on 28 February 2011, 11:09:22 AM
thanks 4 asking mr KK.

Coz...when m poor in the support and  love of my fams...what else would be more beautiful?
I don't really understand what beauty there is in the lack of support and love of family. Elaborate?

Quotecoz im poor of knowledge, then i would start to learn n keep learning...
Many people [literally] stupid and poor of knowledge, yet they don't care of learning. What truly drives one to learn is enough wisdom to realize that learning is necessary whether they're smart already or not.

Quotecoz im poor of money, then i would work to have it...
This one, I think I got the point. But precisely, IMO, not the state of poor economy that makes you work, but the sense of responsibility. Rich children aren't obliged to earn income because they already have enough. Nevertheless, many of them still work their way too.

On the other side, poor children generally demanded to work to support. But lack of sense of responsibility often obstruct them and they end up getting worse. Thus, I don't think that poverty makes you work.

Quotecoz im poor, after i hav some money, i will appreciate it by spending it wisely...
This one I agree... to certain degree. Of course poor people hardly have money to spend, so they must choose wisely. But it's also uncommon among them to spend it rashly.

Quotecoz im poor, if one day i would be successful woman, I would appreciate every moment of being "more than others" and sharing them to those who needed.
We can always be grateful of what we have now if we have contentment in moderation. We never have to compare with others (who have 'more' or 'less' than us) because you'd be awfully miserable when you got no one 'less' to compare to.

To me, it's about us against ourselves, our moderation against our greed. The less greed you have, the more 'happiness' you'll get.