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How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« on: 18 October 2012, 05:23:54 PM »
Friends.. Saya bingung deh :|
Saya udah kuliah 3 semester di Fakultas Bahasa dan Sastra tapi masih kurang gitu di speaking dan listening :'(
Kalau pas speaking di depan kelas atau presentasi pasti masih gemeteran dan ga bisa lancar ngomongnya..
Pas listening juga masih kurang cepat menangkap ::)

Berbagai cara udah dicoba misal: ngomong sama temen se fakultas pake bahasa inggris, untuk listeningnya juga udah coba dengan dengerin lagu dan sering enggak nangkep words nya ::)
Kadang juga kalo pas ga ada tugas nonton tv di kos yang kartun pake bahasa inggris, juga kurang bisa nangkep..

Gimana yah caranya biar bisa semakin baik speaking dan listening nya? Mohon masukannya :( :yes:
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #1 on: 18 October 2012, 05:43:30 PM »
gw pikir mungkin karena panik ya.. jadinya di depan lebih fokus memikirkan "aduh gw bisa gak ya, dll"
solusinya coba perbanyak conversation, mungkin ada dosen yang akrab / gaul bisa diajak ngobrol pake bahasa inggris
Ini bukan milikku, ini bukan aku, ini bukan diriku
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #2 on: 18 October 2012, 05:48:54 PM »
for speaking :

try joining "Toastmaster"
http://www.toastmasters.org/default.aspx
a non profit international organization
to learn interactive public speaking
there are 42 clubs in jakarta, and 10 clubs in surabaya
unfortunately there is none in semarang,
so ask your faculty to made a club

or... join couchsurfing
https://www.couchsurfing.org/
the idea is to give free accommodation for traveler
but you can also just go for coffee or chat with traveler around the world

======================================

for listening:

watch dvd in the original english languange
and put the subtitle in english
does your campus has library with video facility ?

if you listen to music online
try getting the song lyrics too

after a while you will get used to
listening without the subtitle nor the lyrics

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #3 on: 18 October 2012, 07:56:23 PM »
selain 2 saran diatas
alternatif yang lain, karena punya akses internet, cari bahan di VOA (Voice of America). Topik yang dibahas cukup luas, tinggal disesuaikan dengan selera (science, health, edu, economy, agriculturei dll bahkan bisa dengar offline pindato khususnya American Style) dan bagusnya ada script-nya.
ex:http://learningenglish.voanews.com/?refresh=1

Sastra Inggris di tempat-mu klo nggak salah lebih condong ke UK (?)
jadi mungkin bisa dicari link ke Radio Australia ataupun BBC untuk menyesuaikan aksen.


untuk speaking, cari info di Pusat Bahasa dekat FSM unt jadi tour guide Bule2 yg kesasar di S3
siapa tau dpt cogan bule ;D
« Last Edit: 18 October 2012, 08:11:29 PM by Mas Tidar »
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #4 on: 18 October 2012, 08:29:53 PM »
coba porsi latihannya ditambah,trus chating ama bule..
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #5 on: 18 October 2012, 08:51:24 PM »
mulai bangun tidur, beol, makan sampai tidur lagi ngomong inggris terus.
nonton pelem inggris, baca buku inggris, dengerin audio book inggris, nulis catatan pake inggris, baca koran inggris, nonton berita inggris.

paling cepet backpack ke negara yang natively ngomong inggris selama 2-3 bulan.

jalan terakhir, cari pacar yang native speaker inggris.

tanda2 keberhasilan biasanya setelah anda mulai mimpi dalam bahasa inggris.
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #6 on: 18 October 2012, 08:53:30 PM »
mulai bangun tidur, beol, makan sampai tidur lagi ngomong inggris terus.
nonton pelem inggris, baca buku inggris, dengerin audio book inggris, nulis catatan pake inggris, baca koran inggris, nonton berita inggris.

paling cepet backpack ke negara yang natively ngomong inggris selama 2-3 bulan.

jalan terakhir, cari pacar yang native speaker inggris.

tanda2 keberhasilan biasanya setelah anda mulai mimpi dalam bahasa inggris.

trus mulai cadel.wkwkwkw
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #7 on: 18 October 2012, 09:37:18 PM »
language is a matter of habit, ade ;D
btw dah dapet makul phonetics belum?

mulai bangun tidur, beol, makan sampai tidur lagi ngomong inggris terus.
nonton pelem inggris, baca buku inggris, dengerin audio book inggris, nulis catatan pake inggris, baca koran inggris, nonton berita inggris.

paling cepet backpack ke negara yang natively ngomong inggris selama 2-3 bulan.

jalan terakhir, cari pacar yang native speaker inggris.

tanda2 keberhasilan biasanya setelah anda mulai mimpi dalam bahasa inggris.
and have the mind westernized ^-^

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #8 on: 18 October 2012, 09:56:17 PM »
 :)) :)) pernah dengar yang satu ini  :jempol:

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mulai bangun tidur, beol, makan sampai tidur lagi ngomong inggris terus.
nonton pelem inggris, baca buku inggris, dengerin audio book inggris, nulis catatan pake inggris, baca koran inggris, nonton berita inggris.

paling cepet backpack ke negara yang natively ngomong inggris selama 2-3 bulan.

jalan terakhir, cari pacar yang native speaker inggris.

==> tanda2 keberhasilan biasanya setelah anda mulai mimpi dalam bahasa inggris.
Saccena me samo natthi, Esa me saccaparamiti

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #9 on: 18 October 2012, 10:01:45 PM »
gw pikir mungkin karena panik ya.. jadinya di depan lebih fokus memikirkan "aduh gw bisa gak ya, dll"
solusinya coba perbanyak conversation, mungkin ada dosen yang akrab / gaul bisa diajak ngobrol pake bahasa inggris
iya, banyak groginya om forte :(

for speaking :

try joining "Toastmaster"
http://www.toastmasters.org/default.aspx
a non profit international organization
to learn interactive public speaking
there are 42 clubs in jakarta, and 10 clubs in surabaya
unfortunately there is none in semarang,
so ask your faculty to made a club

or... join couchsurfing
https://www.couchsurfing.org/
the idea is to give free accommodation for traveler
but you can also just go for coffee or chat with traveler around the world

======================================

for listening:

watch dvd in the original english languange
and put the subtitle in english
does your campus has library with video facility ?

if you listen to music online
try getting the song lyrics too

after a while you will get used to
listening without the subtitle nor the lyrics
thanks for you advices cc, I'll try them ;D

selain 2 saran diatas
alternatif yang lain, karena punya akses internet, cari bahan di VOA (Voice of America). Topik yang dibahas cukup luas, tinggal disesuaikan dengan selera (science, health, edu, economy, agriculturei dll bahkan bisa dengar offline pindato khususnya American Style) dan bagusnya ada script-nya.
ex:http://learningenglish.voanews.com/?refresh=1

Sastra Inggris di tempat-mu klo nggak salah lebih condong ke UK (?)
jadi mungkin bisa dicari link ke Radio Australia ataupun BBC untuk menyesuaikan aksen.


untuk speaking, cari info di Pusat Bahasa dekat FSM unt jadi tour guide Bule2 yg kesasar di S3
siapa tau dpt cogan bule ;D
ga tau juga sih condongnya kemana.. Tapi dosen native nya pada kebanyakan dari USA sih ;D
oke, VOA *catet*

coba porsi latihannya ditambah,trus chating ama bule..
cuman sedikit temen yg juga mau ngomong using english sih, but I'll try it ;D

mulai bangun tidur, beol, makan sampai tidur lagi ngomong inggris terus.
nonton pelem inggris, baca buku inggris, dengerin audio book inggris, nulis catatan pake inggris, baca koran inggris, nonton berita inggris.

paling cepet backpack ke negara yang natively ngomong inggris selama 2-3 bulan.

jalan terakhir, cari pacar yang native speaker inggris.

tanda2 keberhasilan biasanya setelah anda mulai mimpi dalam bahasa inggris.

aku maunya yang di bold ajaaaaa, siapa sinih yang mau berangkatin ^-^ ;D
Mimpi dalam bahasa inggris ::)

language is a matter of habit, ade ;D
btw dah dapet makul phonetics belum?
and have the mind westernized ^-^
makul phonetics kayaknya semester 5 deh..
what do you mean with "have the mind westernized"? Could you explain it more clearly please? ;D
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #10 on: 18 October 2012, 10:02:17 PM »
:)) :)) pernah dengar yang satu ini  :jempol:
masa? :o
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #11 on: 18 October 2012, 10:22:38 PM »

jangan lupa cari info di PB (tour guide, biasanya pas liburan sekolah ada bule ke sasar)
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #12 on: 18 October 2012, 10:38:17 PM »
jangan lupa cari info di PB (tour guide, biasanya pas liburan sekolah ada bule ke sasar)
:jempol:
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #13 on: 18 October 2012, 11:27:33 PM »
Untuk listening download audiobooks, sama sering2 nonton film yang pake bahasa english "asli", kek Harry Potter, LOTR, dll, pertama pakai sub english(sambil nangkep omongannya), kemudian nonton lagi, jangan pake sub lagi...
untuk film2 seperti Men In Black dll, englishnya udah ngaco....
« Last Edit: 18 October 2012, 11:29:55 PM by will_i_am »
hiduplah hanya pada hari ini, jangan mengkhawatirkan masa depan ataupun terpuruk dalam masa lalu.
berbahagialah akan apa yang anda miliki, jangan mengejar keinginan akan memiliki
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #14 on: 19 October 2012, 07:55:37 AM »
jangan lupa cari info di PB (tour guide, biasanya pas liburan sekolah ada bule ke sasar)
nowadays that's couchsurfing  ;D

aku maunya yang di bold ajaaaaa, siapa sinih yang mau berangkatin ^-^ ;D
hence, couchsuring too
you backpack, pay your plane ticket
and stay for free in other people house
sounds scary, but it's not that bad. actually it's kinda fun  ;D

tanda2 keberhasilan biasanya setelah anda mulai mimpi dalam bahasa inggris.
or when you are talking to yourself in your head, the conversation is in english

what do you mean with "have the mind westernized"? Could you explain it more clearly please? ;D

is it like: "adoring western thing too much"
like thinking: "anything from the west is awesome, bla bla bla.
the east is so ancient"
and believing the media that
"the nato is the good guy, the middle east is the bad guy"
after a while you realize, that's just an extreme
go for the middle way
 

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #15 on: 19 October 2012, 10:37:45 AM »
I have same problem too... I want to have private conversation lesson. Anyone have references teacher?
Anyway I have one of some interesting way to learn... Google translate can speak (press the "speaker" button) I like to ask people from different country spell my name. Sounds funny. wanna try?  ^-^

mulai bangun tidur, beol, makan sampai tidur lagi ngomong inggris terus.
nonton pelem inggris, baca buku inggris, dengerin audio book inggris, nulis catatan pake inggris, baca koran inggris, nonton berita inggris.

paling cepet backpack ke negara yang natively ngomong inggris selama 2-3 bulan.

jalan terakhir, cari pacar yang native speaker inggris.

tanda2 keberhasilan biasanya setelah anda mulai mimpi dalam bahasa inggris.
sounds like experienced  :-?

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #16 on: 19 October 2012, 11:11:25 PM »
ada 1 saran lagi, sebagai saran terakhir
kalau sering & suka baca koran sperti suara merdeka, jawa pos, republika atau kompas, mulai saat ini, dihentikan



diganti ...: ShowHide
 dengan "Jakarta Post" ;D (beli late edition sebagai pertimbangan budget)
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #17 on: 20 October 2012, 08:46:04 AM »
iya, banyak groginya om forte :(
thanks for you advices cc, I'll try them ;D
ga tau juga sih condongnya kemana.. Tapi dosen native nya pada kebanyakan dari USA sih ;D
oke, VOA *catet*
cuman sedikit temen yg juga mau ngomong using english sih, but I'll try it ;D
aku maunya yang di bold ajaaaaa, siapa sinih yang mau berangkatin ^-^ ;D
Mimpi dalam bahasa inggris ::)
makul phonetics kayaknya semester 5 deh..
what do you mean with "have the mind westernized"? Could you explain it more clearly please? ;D

... is it like: "adoring western thing too much"
like thinking: "anything from the west is awesome, bla bla bla.
the east is so ancient"
and believing the media that
"the nato is the good guy, the middle east is the bad guy"
after a while you realize, that's just an extreme
go for the middle way
 
terima kasih wat sis bluppy dah bantu jelasin  n ngasih solusinya_/\_

wah saran dari teman-teman sangat beragam sekali. ane jadi tambah wawasan. trims _/\_

apapun cara yang ade CHL pilih, lakukan dengan semangat yah! :)

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #18 on: 04 November 2012, 06:49:39 AM »
pas liburan ade bisa maen kesini:

http://kampung-inggris.com/

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #19 on: 05 November 2012, 09:29:49 AM »
Untuk listening download audiobooks, sama sering2 nonton film yang pake bahasa english "asli", kek Harry Potter, LOTR, dll, pertama pakai sub english(sambil nangkep omongannya), kemudian nonton lagi, jangan pake sub lagi...
untuk film2 seperti Men In Black dll, englishnya udah ngaco....

Wkwkwk... Ngaco gmn mksdnya ?

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #20 on: 05 November 2012, 03:11:53 PM »
yah banyak pake bahasa 'gaul'-nya :P
hiduplah hanya pada hari ini, jangan mengkhawatirkan masa depan ataupun terpuruk dalam masa lalu.
berbahagialah akan apa yang anda miliki, jangan mengejar keinginan akan memiliki
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #21 on: 05 November 2012, 09:23:07 PM »
Well, this several weeka I have been watching Friends and I like to imitate the way they speak.. I think I have made some improvements in my listening and speaking skill ;D
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« Reply #22 on: 10 November 2012, 06:30:41 PM »
pas liburan ade bisa maen kesini:

http://kampung-inggris.com/
one of my friends in intro to language edu class said that he had joined at kampung inggris. However, he told that the curriculum was too old. I mean, they still use old way to teach English. ::)

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« Reply #23 on: 11 November 2012, 06:41:35 AM »
one of my friends in intro to language edu class said that he had joined at kampung inggris. However, he told that the curriculum was too old. I mean, they still use old way to teach English. ::)
really? how old is old enough? :))

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #24 on: 11 November 2012, 08:52:39 AM »
really? how old is old enough? :))
dunno :P
my friend who joined that program is sixers (angkatan 2006) and his speaking still so so, can we conclude that program didn't work? :|
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« Reply #25 on: 11 November 2012, 10:56:46 AM »
dunno :P
my friend who joined that program is sixers (angkatan 2006) and his speaking still so so, can we conclude that program didn't work? :|
probably for him, not others :))

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #26 on: 11 November 2012, 11:35:47 AM »
 :jempol:
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #27 on: 11 November 2012, 11:42:44 AM »
dunno :P
my friend who joined that program is sixers (angkatan 2006) and his speaking still so so, can we conclude that program didn't work? :|
:hammer:

=))
hiduplah hanya pada hari ini, jangan mengkhawatirkan masa depan ataupun terpuruk dalam masa lalu.
berbahagialah akan apa yang anda miliki, jangan mengejar keinginan akan memiliki
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #28 on: 11 November 2012, 01:36:45 PM »
:hammer:

=))
brother, in my faculty, there are still a lot of old star.. If they can't finish their study in 7 years, they will do readmisi. They have to pay SPP and uang gedung again as new students, have a new NIM as new student, but they can still do their thesis.. there is no DO in my univerity :|

There is one fourers (angakatn 2004) who still doesn't finish his study yet and now he joined as twelvers member ::)
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #29 on: 11 November 2012, 02:15:07 PM »
brother, in my faculty, there are still a lot of old star.. If they can't finish their study in 7 years, they will do readmisi. They have to pay SPP and uang gedung again as new students, have a new NIM as new student, but they can still do their thesis.. there is no DO in my univerity :|

There is one fourers (angakatn 2004) who still doesn't finish his study yet and now he joined as twelvers member ::)
wow.... :o
I should have praise that man for his great effort (not to mention his lack in study)
If it were me, I should just give up already.... ::)
hiduplah hanya pada hari ini, jangan mengkhawatirkan masa depan ataupun terpuruk dalam masa lalu.
berbahagialah akan apa yang anda miliki, jangan mengejar keinginan akan memiliki
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #30 on: 11 November 2012, 02:22:37 PM »
wow.... :o
I should have praise that man for his great effort (not to mention his lack in study)
If it were me, I should just give up already.... ::)
I hope that will not happen to me :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:
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« Reply #31 on: 11 November 2012, 06:42:13 PM »
wow.... :o
I should have praise that man for his great effort (not to mention his lack in study)
If it were me, I should just give up already.... ::)
I hope that will not happen to me :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:

the higher the semester the stronger the wind blows. you'll understand his feeling and condition once you are at his position. soon ^-^  =))

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« Reply #32 on: 11 November 2012, 07:26:14 PM »
the higher the semester the stronger the wind blows. you'll understand his feeling and condition once you are at his position. soon ^-^  =))
okay, I'll try to understand but not for get same condition with them ::)
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« Reply #33 on: 12 November 2012, 04:30:17 PM »
okay, I'll try to understand but not for get same condition with them ::)
Wish my journey in the university will finish 1,5 years later :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Good luck sis, u can do it.... !! btw do u have any plan after that?

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Good luck sis, u can do it.... !! btw do u have any plan after that?
still don't know ::)
my mom think that may be I can be a private teacher.
Actually, I'm a little bit don't like her suggestion. To be a private teacher means that I will just stay at home and teach my student.
I can't meet people who have the same age as me..

Actually, what I fear if I being a teacher is that I will get married at old age :hammer: :hammer:
Yeah, u can laugh when you read my reason, but there are a lot of teachers who get married around 30++  ::) ::) :?? :no: :no:
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« Reply #35 on: 12 November 2012, 06:19:30 PM »
still don't know ::)
my mom think that may be I can be a private teacher.
Actually, I'm a little bit don't like her suggestion. To be a private teacher means that I will just stay at home and teach my student.
I can't meet people who have the same age as me..

Actually, what I fear if I being a teacher is that I will get married at old age :hammer: :hammer:
Yeah, u can laugh when you read my reason, but there are a lot of teachers who get married around 30++  ::) ::) :?? :no: :no:

Actually many teachers marry to their students,... some of them get pregnant before the official wedding day...
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« Reply #36 on: 12 November 2012, 06:48:21 PM »
Actually many teachers marry to their students,... some of them get pregnant before the official wedding day...

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« Reply #37 on: 12 November 2012, 10:53:29 PM »
still don't know ::)
my mom think that may be I can be a private teacher.
Actually, I'm a little bit don't like her suggestion. To be a private teacher means that I will just stay at home and teach my student.
I can't meet people who have the same age as me..

Actually, what I fear if I being a teacher is that I will get married at old age :hammer: :hammer:
Yeah, u can laugh when you read my reason, but there are a lot of teachers who get married around 30++  ::) ::) :?? :no: :no:

Thats not true.. U wont stay at home all the time, there must be a lot of ways to find ur soulmate..  he might be here.. *no one knows* :P  anyway u can also be a school or public teacher at the same time so u can make some friends... To be a private teacher can become ur side job...what do u think? But do u like teaching?

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« Reply #38 on: 12 November 2012, 10:53:47 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: 13 November 2012, 04:52:36 AM »
Thats not true.. U wont stay at home all the time, there must be a lot of ways to find ur soulmate..  he might be here.. *no one knows* :P  anyway u can also be a school or public teacher at the same time so u can make some friends... To be a private teacher can become ur side job...what do u think? But do u like teaching?
haha.. I don't like teaching.. I don't wanna be a real teacher who teaches at the school.
When I was junior and senior high school student I often say that I don't wanna be a teacher.

I have point of view that to be a teacher isn't good. You'll spent a lot of ur time to make exam questions, do correction, never get high salary, just stuck at the back of table, and get married in old age. I don't wanna be a teacherrrrrrr~
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« Reply #40 on: 13 November 2012, 07:50:56 AM »
haha.. I don't like teaching.. I don't wanna be a real teacher who teaches at the school.
When I was junior and senior high school student I often say that I don't wanna be a teacher.

I have point of view that to be a teacher isn't good. You'll spent a lot of ur time to make exam questions, do correction, never get high salary, just stuck at the back of table, and get married in old age. I don't wanna be a teacherrrrrrr~

this is not true... many teachers married their students....
and you can choose to be the part time teacher, do you !

actually nothing have to do with married in old age an being a teacher...

remember Lady Diana ? Is she a teacher ?
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there must be a lot of ways to find ur soulmate.
id no n photo please.... hahahaha....

can u tell me how to find the SM ?
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Gimana yah caranya biar bisa semakin baik speaking dan listening nya? Mohon masukannya 
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« Reply #43 on: 13 November 2012, 11:01:39 AM »
haha.. I don't like teaching.. I don't wanna be a real teacher who teaches at the school.
When I was junior and senior high school student I often say that I don't wanna be a teacher.

I have point of view that to be a teacher isn't good. You'll spent a lot of ur time to make exam questions, do correction, never get high salary, just stuck at the back of table, and get married in old age. I don't wanna be a teacherrrrrrr~

In my opinion, if we want to be a good teacher we must have interest, skill n knowledge too, coz in my experience there are several really great teachers I admire, they can make their students understand the lesson easily.
btw u can try to find out other job's criteria that may be suits ur background education... if u like to travelling n meet people, u can try to apply marketing position, or public relation for example....  Just a kind of thought.  :)

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« Reply #44 on: 13 November 2012, 11:05:51 AM »
id no n photo please.... hahahaha....

can u tell me how to find the SM ?

Can u tell me the reason why I should tell u?  :whistle:

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« Reply #45 on: 13 November 2012, 11:42:06 AM »
In my opinion, if we want to be a good teacher we must have interest, skill n knowledge too, coz in my experience there are several really great teachers I admire, they can make their students understand the lesson easily.
btw u can try to find out other job's criteria that may be suits ur background education... if u like to travelling n meet people, u can try to apply marketing position, or public relation for example....  Just a kind of thought.  :)

There are a lot of people who don't work in the field that no connection with their college, for example: om forte ;D
yep, I think a wanna be a translator who works for foreign company. :) that's why I want to improve my listening and speaking skill ;D
Although I will graduate as S.Pd , I will accept two certificates.
 One is used if u wanna be a teacher, and the other will be used if u want to work in a company ;D
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« Reply #46 on: 13 November 2012, 12:55:37 PM »
There are a lot of people who don't work in the field that no connection with their college, for example: om forte ;D
yep, I think a wanna be a translator who works for foreign company. :) that's why I want to improve my listening and speaking skill ;D
Although I will graduate as S.Pd , I will accept two certificates.
 One is used if u wanna be a teacher, and the other will be used if u want to work in a company ;D

Yup.... and it needs a willing to learn new things and also if u meet the company's requirement. Glad u already have a mission. Keep fighting! ^^
Btw, what does S,Pd stand for?  Its 4 years study right?

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Yup.... and it needs a willing to learn new things and also if u meet the company's requirement. Glad u already have a mission. Keep fighting! ^^
Btw, what does S,Pd stand for?  Its 4 years study right?
S.Pd stands for Sarjana Pendidikan. Yes, 4 years study. However, I am taking Intro to research this semester( actually this subject is for semester 5's students) this is the basic subject to take thesis. If there is no change, I will write my thesis at the sixth semester and graduate after I finish my seventh semester :)
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« Reply #48 on: 13 November 2012, 01:35:57 PM »
S.Pd stands for Sarjana Pendidikan. Yes, 4 years study. However, I am taking Intro to research this semester( actually this subject is for semester 5's students) this is the basic subject to take thesis. If there is no change, I will write my thesis at the sixth semester and graduate after I finish my seventh semester :)

Great... keep spirit!!  ;D

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« Reply #49 on: 13 November 2012, 01:50:35 PM »
I think you should prepare worst case plan if your goal is not achieved.
Like my math teacher's quote : Hope for the best, prepare for the worst ;D
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« Reply #50 on: 13 November 2012, 03:00:21 PM »
I think you should prepare worst case plan if your goal is not achieved.
Like my math teacher's quote : Hope for the best, prepare for the worst ;D
::) still don't know what I should do for plan B
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« Reply #51 on: 13 November 2012, 03:01:19 PM »
Life is so complicated, isn't it? :|
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« Reply #52 on: 13 November 2012, 07:41:03 PM »
saya memang mudah, tapi tidak murah, apalagi gampangan atau gratisan.

duhh things just happend...who know...

people say... nothing can stop falling in love... :P :P :P
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« Reply #53 on: 13 November 2012, 08:27:57 PM »
Life is so complicated, isn't it? :|

same as getting your phone number is complicated, isn't it ?
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« Reply #54 on: 13 November 2012, 10:15:48 PM »
same as getting your phone number is complicated, isn't it ?
as difficult as getting your photo...
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« Reply #55 on: 14 November 2012, 06:45:05 AM »
Can u tell me the reason why I should tell u?  :whistle:

helping each other is also the teaching of the wise one...

if you are an musical teacher, and performing (recital) great pieces of music...
then u can be a star...  popular,...

this can attract not only one, but many2... men....  ^:)^
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« Reply #56 on: 14 November 2012, 10:55:11 AM »
helping each other is also the teaching of the wise one...
Ok, then do u have problem in finding soulmate?

u can do what u said below:
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if you are an musical teacher, and performing (recital) great pieces of music...
then u can be a star...  popular,...

this can attract not only one, but many2... men....  ^:)^
I'm sorry I'm not... ::)

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« Reply #57 on: 14 November 2012, 11:25:21 AM »
as difficult as getting your photo...
mohon transparansinya kk~

Seberapa transparan yang diinginkan dari seekor seorang cumi? 

Apakah sampai sepolos2nya?  ^-^
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« Reply #58 on: 14 November 2012, 11:30:28 AM »
listening: watch english movie
Start with the easy one such as Avatar: Legend of Aang.

Dont use any subtitle.
After that, proceed to other movies.
Start with action movies, then to movies with lots of dialogue.

When you are confident enough, try to listen to Audiobook
It is basically a book, but in the form of recording, somebody will recite it for you.
I usually listen to free audiobook of my favorite novel which is available in internet.
Well I think you can find the pirated copy. The downside is that the files are large and takes long time to download
And the originals are expensive.


For speaking, no other way, you need to practice with a partner.
Best with native speaker
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« Reply #59 on: 14 November 2012, 02:49:55 PM »
When you are confident enough, try to listen to Audiobook
It is basically a book, but in the form of recording, somebody will recite it for you.
I usually listen to free audiobook of my favorite novel which is available in internet.
Well I think you can find the pirated copy. The downside is that the files are large and takes long time to download
And the originals are expensive.

I think listening to audiobook is a lot easier than listening to film, for the reader is specialized in reading and speaking, so it is easier to comprehend..
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« Reply #60 on: 14 November 2012, 02:57:33 PM »
haha.. I don't like teaching.. I don't wanna be a real teacher who teaches at the school.
When I was junior and senior high school student I often say that I don't wanna be a teacher.

I have point of view that to be a teacher isn't good. You'll spent a lot of ur time to make exam questions, do correction, never get high salary, just stuck at the back of table, and get married in old age. I don't wanna be a teacherrrrrrr~
If you think of being a teacher is not good enough for the salary is too low, then why don't you try to be a civil servants (PNS) sist?
My math teacher had said that his salary right now is about Rp. 7.500.000,- per month..
higher salary, and yet easier than most kind of job..
for example, when you working in bank, you only get about Rp. 5.000.000,- per month and you have to work all day long..
being a teacher only takes half day, from morning to afternoon, and after that you can spend your spare time to do other kind of job, or maybe hang out with friends..
hiduplah hanya pada hari ini, jangan mengkhawatirkan masa depan ataupun terpuruk dalam masa lalu.
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« Reply #61 on: 14 November 2012, 03:04:40 PM »
watch tv series "friends"
season 1 to season 10
use the english subtitle

and then start all over again
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« Reply #62 on: 14 November 2012, 06:10:24 PM »
get an girl friend that speak only English
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« Reply #63 on: 15 November 2012, 09:50:52 AM »
get an girl friend that speak only English

In other word, a foreigner from western contries.
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« Reply #64 on: 15 November 2012, 09:56:35 AM »
In other word, a foreigner from western contries.
Western country not only from US, Canada or Europe but also can be from Australia too.Uncle Sanjiva, what's about u?
Are ur suggestion as same as Mr. Cumpol??

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« Reply #65 on: 15 November 2012, 11:39:21 AM »
Western country not only from US, Canada or Europe but also can be from Australia too.Uncle Sanjiva, what's about u?
Are ur suggestion as same as Mr. Cumpol??
just posting here and there, how one get expert in speaking is a day dream...

so get cumpol quickly...
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« Reply #66 on: 15 November 2012, 11:49:31 AM »
just posting here and there, how one get expert in speaking is a day dream...

so get cumpol quickly...
IKm sorry Mr. Cumpol but truely I cannot understand "what's your mean with that statement??? :P"

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« Reply #67 on: 15 November 2012, 11:56:54 AM »
IKm sorry Mr. Cumpol but truely I cannot understand "what's your mean with that statement??? :P"

how do you learn speaking in this forum ? :P :P
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« Reply #68 on: 15 November 2012, 12:31:33 PM »
Western country not only from US, Canada or Europe but also can be from Australia too.Uncle Sanjiva, what's about u?
Are ur suggestion as same as Mr. Cumpol??

Me?  I prefer double, so local speaker and also foreigner one.  ;D
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« Reply #69 on: 16 November 2012, 08:31:35 AM »
If you think of being a teacher is not good enough for the salary is too low, then why don't you try to be a civil servants (PNS) sist?
My math teacher had said that his salary right now is about Rp. 7.500.000,- per month..
higher salary, and yet easier than most kind of job..
for example, when you working in bank, you only get about Rp. 5.000.000,- per month and you have to work all day long..
being a teacher only takes half day, from morning to afternoon, and after that you can spend your spare time to do other kind of job, or maybe hang out with friends..

and..not to mention the holiday, yeahh~~
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #70 on: 19 November 2012, 03:46:44 PM »
okay, I'll try to understand but not for get same condition with them ::)
Wish my journey in the university will finish 1,5 years later :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
then my wisest quotation is do not dwell too deep in literature ^-^ ^-^


being a private teacher isn't that bad... once you feel being accepted in the family you work at. besides that, it is a good point for your portfolio and hey, the best learning is teaching!

you have nothing to lose 8)

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #71 on: 19 November 2012, 04:04:23 PM »
then my wisest quotation is do not dwell too deep in literature ^-^ ^-^


being a private teacher isn't that bad... once you feel being accepted in the family you work at. besides that, it is a good point for your portfolio and hey, the best learning is teaching!
you have nothing to lose 8)
why I shouldn't dwell too deep in literature? ???

How about you? What will you take as your job after graduated? ;D
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #72 on: 19 November 2012, 04:27:27 PM »
why I shouldn't dwell too deep in literature? ???
because you will get stuck and never again get out from there... :))
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #73 on: 19 November 2012, 04:34:52 PM »
because you will get stuck and never again get out from there... :))
I wish it will never happen to me :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #74 on: 21 November 2012, 01:16:35 PM »
why I shouldn't dwell too deep in literature? ???

How about you? What will you take as your job after graduated? ;D

#1:
because you will get stuck and never again get out from there... :))


#2:
and because you will see grey between the black and the white :D

which one do you want to know? the job before or after marriage ?  =))

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #75 on: 21 November 2012, 03:17:16 PM »
#1:
#2:
and because you will see grey between the black and the white :D

which one do you want to know? the job before or after marriage ?  =))
grey, is it mean that we can't decide which one is right or wrong?

before sih ::) ::)
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #76 on: 28 November 2012, 10:38:25 AM »
Tell me honestly how to be an expert in speaking ?
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #77 on: 28 November 2012, 11:40:12 AM »
Ciri-ciri orang yang expert bahasa inggris:
1. Ngomong Bahasa Inggris
2. Berpikir dalam Bahasa Inggris
3. Mimpi dalam Bahasa Inggris

Semuanya tergantung kebiasaan. Untuk mimpi emang susah di atur. But at least try to speak and think in English. Your dream will automatically be translated in English too :D
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #78 on: 03 December 2012, 05:30:09 AM »
Ciri-ciri orang yang expert bahasa inggris:
1. Ngomong Bahasa Inggris
2. Berpikir dalam Bahasa Inggris
3. Mimpi dalam Bahasa Inggris

Semuanya tergantung kebiasaan. Untuk mimpi emang susah di atur. But at least try to speak and think in English. Your dream will automatically be translated in English too :D

punya pacar, istri/suami, rekan kerja orang yg berbahasa English...

kalau utk sis...ya kerja perusahaan international yg kebanyakan orgnya berbahasa English...
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #79 on: 03 December 2012, 06:41:08 AM »
pilihan lain adalah menjadi translatornya ceramah Buddhist dlm bahasa English.... ini sangat bagus...
   dan siap2 kuasain bahasanya yg berhubungan dgn istilah2 Buddhist...

Bhante : Follow me to recite this sutta.
you : Ikutinlah Bante membaca sutta ini...

bhante : Namo Tassa.....arahato ....
you : __________________

(sampai bhante selesai)...
 ;)

kira2 begitu ya...
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #80 on: 06 January 2013, 08:33:22 PM »
Friends.. Saya bingung deh :|
Saya udah kuliah 3 semester di Fakultas Bahasa dan Sastra tapi masih kurang gitu di speaking dan listening :'(
Kalau pas speaking di depan kelas atau presentasi pasti masih gemeteran dan ga bisa lancar ngomongnya..
Pas listening juga masih kurang cepat menangkap ::)

Berbagai cara udah dicoba misal: ngomong sama temen se fakultas pake bahasa inggris, untuk listeningnya juga udah coba dengan dengerin lagu dan sering enggak nangkep words nya ::)
Kadang juga kalo pas ga ada tugas nonton tv di kos yang kartun pake bahasa inggris, juga kurang bisa nangkep..

Gimana yah caranya biar bisa semakin baik speaking dan listening nya? Mohon masukannya :( :yes:

If u want to speak and listen english fluently, i think u must pratice a lot.
Don't worry to make a mistake in english
How do you think if we chat using english? Maybe this can help you to improve your english skill?

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #81 on: 07 January 2013, 08:24:23 AM »
pilihan lain adalah menjadi translatornya ceramah Buddhist dlm bahasa English.... ini sangat bagus...
   dan siap2 kuasain bahasanya yg berhubungan dgn istilah2 Buddhist...

Bhante : Follow me to recite this sutta.
you : Ikutinlah Bante membaca sutta ini...

bhante : Namo Tassa.....arahato ....
you : __________________

(sampai bhante selesai)...
 ;)

kira2 begitu ya...
wah ini mah interpreter tiga bahasa ???

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #82 on: 07 January 2013, 08:08:35 PM »
If u want to speak and listen english fluently, i think u must pratice a lot.
Don't worry to make a mistake in english
How do you think if we chat using english? Maybe this can help you to improve your english skill?
thanks for your help kk top1 ;D
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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #83 on: 09 January 2013, 10:33:00 PM »
don't be afraid to try.....

cumi pernah jadi penterjemah utk bhiku dari Birma dlm topik meditasi...
kejadiannya sih itu acara dadakan dan sptnya gak ada yg bersedia maju jadi penterjemah...
nahh cumi kan agak "usil" ini menawarkan diri.... cumi mengatakan kalau ada yg lebih
bisa, silahkan... tapi kalau tidak cumi bersedia....hehehehe....

ternyata ini job yg pertama, maka perlu konsentrasi penuh (tidak disarankan ngelamun) dan kerjaan ini memang memeras otak....

apalagi bhiku yg ngomong ngerocos panjang...ahhhhh terpaksa cumi nulis2 dikertas secara ringkas baru kemudian menterjemahkan sambil melihat catatan tsb..... untung semua berjalan dgn lancar... beberapa kata2 sulit dibantu oleh rekan2 cumi...ha ha ha.... (ini udah janjian dulu utk rekan2 yg akan membantu...)

jadi utk menjadi expert in English, tak ada salahnya menawarkan diri jadi penterjemah....

siapa yg berani coba ?

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Re: How to Be An Expert in Speaking and Listening?
« Reply #84 on: 10 January 2013, 10:16:44 AM »
Hi Huiling,

how's your english today, how long you have studied english? do you practice everyday?
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2nd,rely on the teachings, not on the personality of the teacher;
3rd,rely on real wisdom, not superficial interpretation;
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