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Let's "blog" together
« on: 22 June 2010, 09:46:39 PM »
Very often I come across something interesting, and wish that I could write it down right away. If only those everyday "pearls" could stay in mind forever, unfortunately I am very forgetful.
So I am thinking of starting a mini "blog", maybe even smaller than micro-blog twitter, we can all fill it up together.

(Of course, I might end up to be the only one who is writing here, talking to myself  ;D - it's okey, risk taken)

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« Reply #1 on: 22 June 2010, 09:55:30 PM »
signing in .. i'll keep reading whenever i have time .. :)
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« Reply #2 on: 22 June 2010, 10:04:44 PM »
Hence my first post.

Today I browsed old posts on Forum Tanya Jawab Samaggi-Phala. Bhante Uttamo's answers are amazingly wonderful! Found so many priceless "pearls", but this one pearl stood out because somehow it struck directly into my heart.

Asker:
What is the key of Dhamma teaching that if hold onto can help us to solve every problem?

Bhante Uttamo:
ACCEPT THE REALITY as how it is that life is full of changes.
Find THE REASON of the reality we are facing, both pleasant reality or upsetting reality.
Do more of the reasons to our having those pleasant realities. Cut off the reasons of the upsetting reality.
Then, all problems can be solved.
Happiness will be yours for long.

[Original text:]

Dari: Purnomo, Jakarta
Apa kunci ajaran Dhamma yang bila kita pegang terus dalam kehidupan mampu melewati semua masalah?

Jawaban:
MENERIMA KENYATAAN sebagaimana adanya bahwa kehidupan berisikan perubahan.
Carilah SEBAB kenyataan yang sedang dialami, baik kenyataan yang membahagiakan maupun yang menyedihkan.
Tingkatkanlah penyebab kenyataan yang membahagiakan. Perbaiki penyebab kenyataan yang menyedihkan.
Maka, semua masalah akan dapat dilewati.
Kebahagiaan akan dapat dirasakan untuk waktu yang lama.
Salam metta,
B. Uttamo

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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #3 on: 22 June 2010, 10:05:48 PM »
signing in .. i'll keep reading whenever i have time .. :)

Nice!  :)
And post too pls  _/\_

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« Reply #4 on: 22 June 2010, 10:15:10 PM »
signing in .. i'll keep reading whenever i have time .. :)

Nice!  :)
And post too pls  _/\_

someday i will .. i've just dont know what i want to wrote .. i still trying to find something ..  _/\_
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« Reply #5 on: 23 June 2010, 04:23:00 PM »
Hi, truthfully i've found this story since may, several days before Vesakh Day. This is "pearl" that help me to think about kusala and akusala kamma. I picked this from The Debate of King Millinda chapter 15, #73. (full version can be read in http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/milinda.pdf )

73. The Power of Evil
“Which is more powerful, wholesomeness or unwholesomeness?”

“Wholesomeness is more powerful, O king.”

“That is something I cannot believe, for those who do evil often experience the result of their deeds in this very life when they are punished for their crimes, but is there anyone who, by offering alms to the Order or by observing the Uposatha has received the benefit in this very life?”

“There are, O king, six  such cases. The slave Puõõaka, on giving a meal to Sàriputta, attained on the same day to the dignity of a treasurer. Then there was the mother of Gopàla, who sold her hair and therewith gave a meal to Mahà Kaccàyana and as a result became the chief queen of King Udena. The pious woman Suppiyà, who cut flesh from her own thigh to provide meat for a sick monk
but on the very next day the wound healed. Mallikà, when a slave girl, gave her own gruel to the Blessed One and became, that very day, the chief queen of Kosala. Sumana the florist, who resented eight bunches of jasmine to the Blessed One, came into great prosperity and Ekasàñaka the
Brahman who gave the Blessed One his only garment and received that day the gift of ‘All the Eights’.”

“So then, Nàgasena, for all your searching have you
found only six cases?”

“That is so, O king.”

“Then it is unwholesomeness that is more powerful than wholesomeness. For I have seen many men impaled on a stake for their crimes, and in the war waged by the general Bhaddasàla in the service of the Nanda royal family against Chandagutta there were eighty Corpse Dances, for
they say that when a great slaughter has taken place the headless corpses rise and dance over the battle-field. All of those men came to destruction through the fruit of their evil deeds. Yet when King Pasenadi of Kosala gave the unparalleled alms-giving did he receive wealth or glory or happiness
in the same life?”

“No, O king, he did not.”

“Then surely, Nàgasena, unwholesomeness is more powerful?”

“Just, O king, as an inferior grain ripens in a month or two but the best grain ripens only after five or six months, good deeds ripen only after a long time. Furthermore, O king, the results of both good and evil will be experienced in a future life, but because evil is blameworthy it has been
decreed that those who do evil will be punished by the law, yet they do not reward those who do good. If they were to make a law to reward the good doer then good deeds
would also be rewarded in this very life.”

“Very good, Nàgasena, only by one as wise as you could this puzzle be so well solved. The question put by me from the ordinary viewpoint has been made clear by you in the supramundane sense.”

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73. Kekuatan Kejahatan

"Manakah yang lebih kuat, kebajikan atau ketidakbajikan?"

"Kebajikan lebih kuat, O baginda."

"Hal itu tidak dapat aku percaya. Orang-orang yang melakukan kejahatan sering mengalami hasil perbuatannya pada kehidupan sekarang ini juga ketika mereka dihukum karena kejahatannya. Tetapi apakah ada orang yang -karena memberikan persembahan bagi Sangha atau menjalankan Uposatha- menerima manfaatnya pada kehidupan sekarang ini juga?"

"Ada, O baginda, enam kasus seperti itu.

Si budak, Punnaka, dengan memberikan dana makanan kepada Sariputta, pada hari yang sama diangkat menjadi bendahara.
Kemudian ada juga ibu kandung Gopala, yang menjual rambutnya agar dapat memberikan makanan kepada Maha Kaccayana, dan sebagai hasilnya menjadi permaisuri Raja Udena.
Si wanita saleh Suppiya, yang memotong daging di pahanya untuk memberi makan seorang bhikkhu yang sakit dan keesokan harinya luka di pahanya sembuh.
Mallika -ketika masih menjadi seorang budak wanita memberikan makanannya sendiri kepada Sang Buddha dan pada hari itu juga menjadi permaisuri di Kosala.
Sumana, tukang bunga, yang memberikan delapan ikat bunga melati kepada Sang Buddha, memperoleh kemakmuran yang melimpah.
Ekasataka si Brahmana yang memberikan satu-satunya pakaian luarnya kepada Sang Buddha, dan pada hari itu juga menerima pemberian 'Serba Delapan'."

"Jadi Nagasena, dari semua penyelidikan Anda, hanya enam kasuskah yang ditemukan?"

"Demikianlah, O baginda."

"Kalau begitu, ketidakbajikan lebih kuat daripada kebajikan. Karena aku telah melihat banyak orang ditusuk dengan senjata tajam sebagai hukuman atas perbuatan jahat mereka. Dan di dalam peperangan yang dipimpin oleh Jenderal Bhaddasala mewakili keluarga kerajaan Nanda melawan Chandagutta ada delapan puluh Tarian Mayat. Dikatakan bahwa ketika terjadi pembantaian besar-besaran, mayat-mayat tanpa kepala tersebut bangkit kembali dan menari di medan perang. Dan semua orang itu hancur sebagai buah dari perbuatan jahat mereka. Tetapi ketika Raja Pasenadi -raja Kosala- memberikan persembahan dana makanan yang tidak tertandingi, apakah di kehidupan itu juga dia menerima kekayaan atau keagungan atau kebahagiaan?"

"Tidak, O baginda, tidak."

"Kalau begitu, Nagasena, tentu saja ketidakbajikan lebih kuat daripada kebajikan."

"Seperti halnya, O baginda, padi yang jelek akan masak dalam waktu satu atau dua bulan, tetapi padi yang baik akan masak baru setelah lima atau enam bulan; demikian juga perbuatan bajik akan berbuah setelah jangka waktu yang lama. Lebih jauh lagi, O baginda, hasil dari perbuatan bajik maupun perbuatan jahat akan dialami di dalam kehidupan yang akan datang; tetapi karena kejahatan itu tercela, maka ditetapkan bahwa mereka yang berbuat jahat akan dihukum sesuai undang-undang. Sebaliknya, mereka yang berbuat bajik tidak mendapat hadiah. Jika seandainya ditetapkan suatu hukum untuk memberikan hadiah kepada pelaku perbuatan bajik, maka perbuatan-perbuatan bajik juga akan menghasilkan buah di dalam kehidupan ini juga."

"Bagus sekali, Nagasena, hanya oleh orang sebijaksana Anda teka-teki semacam ini dapat diselesaikan. Pertanyaan yang kuajukan dari sudut pandang yang biasa telah Anda jelaskan dengan pengertian yang luar biasa."
(http://forumm.wgaul.com/showthread.php?p=3885742)
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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #6 on: 23 June 2010, 06:39:24 PM »
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but sweet people are difficult to find.
Life ends when u stop dreaming, hope ends when u stop believing,
Love ends when u stop caring,
Friendship ends when u stop sharing.
So share this with whom ever u consider a friend.
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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #7 on: 23 June 2010, 07:01:46 PM »
I attended a workshop at an employment agency. There was a lady who has been working at a pharmaceutical company for like 20-30 years, yet she was being made redundant in October. She was not upset though, she said "My job is being moved overseas, someone there is going to start a new job, while I lose mine. But I am fine with it, because the guys up there who made the decision don't know me at all. It's nothing personal." Then she smiled.

I remembered on my first workshop at the same agency, there were about a dozen people there. All of us had been made redundant. The consultant started by asking how we felt. Words like "depressed", "upset", "angry", "unfair" etc flew out of our mouths. So different from how that lady felt.

In his book "Who Ordered This Truckload of Dung?", Ajahn Brahm has a story. When we are depressed, we often say "It's not fair! Why me?". We feel that we've been treated unjustly without any reason.

There was a prisoner approached Ajahn Brahm and confided to him "Brahm, I wanted to tell you that I didn't commit the crime for which I was locked up in this jail. I was innocent..." Ajahn Brahm believed him and began to think how unfair this was, and wondered how he could mend this terrible injustice. But then the prisoner interrupted his thoughts.

With a mischievous grin, he said, "But Brahm, there were so many other crimes where I wasn't caught that I guess it is fair!".


I love this story. Next time I feel injustice and think "Why me?", I will remember this story. There are a lot of upsetting things happened to me, but on the other hands there are many times I had made other people upset but I got away with those. So it is fair in the end!

When upsetting things happen to me, that surely is my bad kamma ripens.
But when I get away with doing bad things, does it mean my good kamma ripens?

Good kamma ripens slower than bad kamma. Can my good kamma cancel the bad kamma out?
Or kamma doesn't work that way??



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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #8 on: 23 June 2010, 07:02:37 PM »
haruskah memakai bahasa Inggris?

Eh abis ini waroeng english? Sambil latihan nulis pake Inggris  ;D

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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #9 on: 23 June 2010, 07:25:33 PM »
nice thread.. keep posting..
I am glad to read this.

Is this thread used for blogging Buddhism topic only ?


 
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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #10 on: 23 June 2010, 09:05:05 PM »
i think yes, because it start with "pearl" that can stay in our mind .. :)
do the best is not for make people amazed with us, but do the best because it's the only way to enjoy the process .. - Ajahn Brahmvamso

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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #11 on: 23 June 2010, 10:24:40 PM »
 [at] Tania,
as a new comer u started with a nice step. continue it sis, ur posting abt milinda panha so nice, unfortunately i couldnt send u a GRP, as ur reputation, we hv to wait 720 hours, hehehe...

i also interested with this,

Good kamma ripens slower than bad kamma. Can my good kamma cancel the bad kamma out? Or kamma doesn't work that way??[/color]

i love this posting, because i also thinking about that. how i can cancel my bad kamma, at least make it delay to ripens. as we know the vipaka will ripens according the condition, when the condition in the time to ripens then come out the results.

abt good and bad kamma will ripens faster the bad one than the good one, according in my experiences, i got many experiences both of them are same fast will got the results. when i do dana, eventhough few only, then whole day my bus fare are free, but when i did bad things suddenly soon i got the results. im so surprised which i never got it before, now im realized, bad and good will soon got the results, makes me to have to sati anytime.

may all beings be happy

mettacittena,

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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #12 on: 24 June 2010, 12:34:44 AM »
[at] Pannadevi,
Hi Pannadevi, nice to meet you ..  :)
could you tell me what GRP is? and how to increase reputation?

i dont really know about ripe of good and bad karma, i didn't learn abhidhamma as well, to hard for me, but i always think that, Good karma cant canceled the ripens of bad karma, it just can minimize bad karma's effect .. as in Millinda Panha, there are only 6 cases that people who do uposatha for Sangha and received the benefits in same life time.

so sorry, it's already night and i dont have time to translate it in english, this is link (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdhammacitta.org%2Fforum%2Findex.php%2Ftopic%2C14781.0.html&h=fd0a0UyG6IqBrahKZN6vCEkCVFg) about how good karma can minimize bad karma's effect. I've read whole thread, in that story Luang Po who is already reached Abhinna, could know about his bad karma that would riped in short time, so he could made some preparation and help people near him to safe (although its according to their karma too).

About dana that you've done and you'd got "something" as the result in short time, i think it because dana you've done before (i cant tell you when). Dana you've did in this life is just a trigger that help it ripens, besides it will ripe in future.

correct me if i'm wrong,
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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #13 on: 27 June 2010, 10:41:11 AM »
[at] Pannadevi,
Hi Pannadevi, nice to meet you ..  :)
could you tell me what GRP is? and how to increase reputation?

i dont really know about ripe of good and bad karma, i didn't learn abhidhamma as well, to hard for me, but i always think that, Good karma cant canceled the ripens of bad karma, it just can minimize bad karma's effect .. as in Millinda Panha, there are only 6 cases that people who do uposatha for Sangha and received the benefits in same life time.

so sorry, it's already night and i dont have time to translate it in english, this is link (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdhammacitta.org%2Fforum%2Findex.php%2Ftopic%2C14781.0.html&h=fd0a0UyG6IqBrahKZN6vCEkCVFg) about how good karma can minimize bad karma's effect. I've read whole thread, in that story Luang Po who is already reached Abhinna, could know about his bad karma that would riped in short time, so he could made some preparation and help people near him to safe (although its according to their karma too).

About dana that you've done and you'd got "something" as the result in short time, i think it because dana you've done before (i cant tell you when). Dana you've did in this life is just a trigger that help it ripens, besides it will ripe in future.

correct me if i'm wrong,
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dear Tania,
could u qoute the content of that link? unfortunately I haven't FB's account, otherwise I can do by myself. then we can discuss forward. so sorry being late to respond because im busy with my papers. just info for u, I also just learn dhamma, so my dhamma knowledge so limited, here in this forum most of the members are so expert in dhamma knowledge, we can learn with them.

mettacittena,

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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #14 on: 27 June 2010, 01:10:44 PM »
hmmm i think my browser has been error again yesterday .. this is the link http://dhammacitta.org/forum/index.php/topic,14781.0.html it's from dhammacitta itself, so no need to login to facebook acc to read this .. :)
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« Reply #15 on: 27 June 2010, 04:19:53 PM »
thanks sis Tania...i got it, and already read.
yes, i believe it some of ones can have such ability like sixth sense, could hear or see what will happened on them, but pls be careful to say abhiññā, because we don't know that ability really abhiññā or sixth sense. we haven't knowledge about that. our knowledge so limited, Im so interested with his ability to sent his message using telepathi to his closer companion, so great, it can happened with special ability only (most of them attained jhana, if this jhana attained at previous life, will still with them this their ability at present)

because of u, now I know that story which before i also didn't read that story, I have to concentration with my papers. thanks sis.

may all beings be happy

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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #16 on: 27 June 2010, 06:09:07 PM »
hi Pannadevi,
i posted that link to give an example for my post in page [1] which is how good karma can reduce bad karma's effect .. Luang Po in that story could reduce his bad karma's effect from affecting other's life (exclude they has their own bad karma that ready to ripe) aparted its abhinna or just 6th sense .. his good karma can help, although couldn't stop his bad karma from ripens. :)
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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #17 on: 27 June 2010, 08:27:17 PM »
ok, its right. yes i understand clearly abt that.
why only us in this thread? let others to participate too.

mettacittena,

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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #18 on: 27 June 2010, 09:12:01 PM »
haruskah memakai bahasa Inggris?

Eh abis ini waroeng english? Sambil latihan nulis pake Inggris  ;D

It is in English ?....

wooow The blog should be promoted world wide....  ;D ;D
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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #19 on: 28 June 2010, 12:23:07 AM »
ok, its right. yes i understand clearly abt that.
why only us in this thread? let others to participate too.

mettacittena,

hmm .. idk .. although this thread always updated, but noone want to join .. i think they afraid can't speak freely in english .. -____________-"
nothing too worry, we're all here to learn .. :)

haruskah memakai bahasa Inggris?

Eh abis ini waroeng english? Sambil latihan nulis pake Inggris  ;D

It is in English ?....

wooow The blog should be promoted world wide....  ;D ;D

LoL .. we should get more member in english thread before promoting the web .. :D
do the best is not for make people amazed with us, but do the best because it's the only way to enjoy the process .. - Ajahn Brahmvamso

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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #20 on: 29 June 2010, 06:45:19 PM »
Glad to read about the good kamma and bad kamma. If you two say you are beginners, than I am really on ground zero, even minus  :P I really just started to "taste" Buddhism, that's why sometimes there are urges to share the pleasant and meaningful taste I just had.

I still can't make up my mind about the ripening times of good and bad kamma. But I suppose to be on safer side, better try to avoid making more bad ones  :)) This is coming from someone who was once on the verge of being a quadriplegic, somehow I got through all those, probably the work of my good kamma.

Yesterday I went on a job interview. Naturally I was very nervous. Then I realised nervousness was because the mind wandered everywhere, so I tried not to think too much. There was a talk by a young bhante, Ven Larry Varadhammo, a few weeks ago. There were a lot of "pearls" in his talk, but this particular one left very deep imprint in my mind, and was really applicable to that situation (actually to almost all my other situations lol).

He said when you are standing in a queue, do not think "I am queuing", that will just make you impatient and unhappy, just think "What am I doing? Ah I am standing." That's it. Period. S-t-a-n-d-i-n-g. Nothing else nothing more.

I have since heard other bhante talked about something similar, but still the first time left deeper impression.

Thank you Ven Larry! This pearl has helped me soooo many many times.
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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #21 on: 29 June 2010, 08:33:48 PM »
He said when you are standing in a queue, do not think "I am queuing", that will just make you impatient and unhappy, just think "What am I doing? Ah I am standing." That's it. Period. S-t-a-n-d-i-n-g. Nothing else nothing more.

I have since heard other bhante talked about something similar, but still the first time left deeper impression.

Thank you Ven Larry! This pearl has helped me soooo many many times.

a very2 nice word, i love it too .. i've attended bhante Uttamo's dhammadesana and he said, "we are impatient because of what we expected" .. the lower we expect, the lower level of impatient we could get .. :)


p.s i'm already studied about buddhism since junior school, but i never try to learn more, just like another school subject for me. But since i joined the forum, i think of it more and more. And i attend more discussions with friends or in Vihara at sunday .. that's why i told you i am beginner ..  ;D
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« Reply #22 on: 01 July 2010, 06:24:18 PM »
nice posts...as an appreciated +GRP both of u....

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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #23 on: 01 July 2010, 07:14:06 PM »
nice posts...as an appreciated +GRP both of u....


thx Pannadevi! will send for you too, since dhammacitta's database has been fixed .. :)

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« Reply #24 on: 04 July 2010, 06:29:40 PM »
Today we had Ajahn Sukhito with us, one of his talks was about attachment. As long as we are not Arahan (yet), it is unavoidable to be attached to things. Especially laypeople. Laypeople can’t afford to be wishy-washy in real life.

Not all attachments are unwholesome. There are wholesome attachments, and to some extent, it is fine. For instance, tomorrow’s plan keep coming up in our mind. Yes, we are attached to it. No, it is not an unwholesome attachment, having plan for tomorrow is good, no need to discard it. Just try to let it go for half hour while we are meditating (or when we are supposed to be doing something else).

I think, the key is striking the balance between having the attachment, and being able to let it go. It is basically like holding a cup to drink, then put it down after drinking. If we are attached to that cup, we’ll end up carrying it everywhere!

Ajahn said, to deal with attachment we have to think about it. Think about its impact, and whether the object of attachment is permanent (permanently yours). It could be a fun exercise too, give yourself a challenge.

For example, you like drinking Coca Cola, try not to drink for a week. Can you do it? If you do not drink Coca Cola for a week, will it kill you? Ajahn said he is attached to being a monk because that is what he wants to do with his life, but if tomorrow he’s not allowed to be a monk anymore, then he would let it go.

Generosity is a good practice to deal with attachment. Say you have a basket of apples. Normally when we give things away, we keep the best one to ourselves. This time, try to give the best ones to other people! It will teach you about material things, and in the end, simplicity in life is a good practice to deal with attachment.

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« Reply #25 on: 07 July 2010, 08:42:32 PM »
today, "kisah buddhist grup" sent me message about Chattapani, from Dhammapada IV 8-9


a laity named Chattapani, who is an anagami lived in Savatthi. One day, Chattapani visited Lord Buddha in Vihara Jetavana, to hear dhamma in honor and attention.

King Pasenadi has came to Lord Buddha too. Chattapani isn't standing because he think if he standing, it means he gave honor to King Pasenadi, not to Lord Buddha. The king thought that this is a contemptible and break the rule. Lord Buddha knew what is in King Pasenadi's mind; He praised Chattapani, who is great in Dhamma and already reached Anagami.


Hearing this, King Pasenadi is so fascinate and honoring Chattapani. At the following meeting, King Pasenadi asked Chattapani, "You're so smart, would you please come to the palace and give  dhamma lesson to both of my wife?"

Chattapani ignored but he adviced to ask for Lord Buddha's permit and tell Him his purpose. Lord Buddha assigned Ananda to give regular dhamma lesson to Queen Mallika and Queen Vasabhakkhatiya in Palace.

after several days, Lord Buddha asked Ananda about the progrees of two Queens. Ananda replied that Queen Mallika listen to the Dhamma in earnest, while Queen Vasabhakhattiya not really learn the Dhamma.

Then the Buddha expounded lyrics to 51 and 52 the following:

Like a beautiful flower but it doesn't smell nice, so too would not be useful pearls of words uttered by people who do not carry it out.

Like a beautiful flower and smells good, so too it is useful pearls words spoken by the people who execute it.


indonesian :

Seorang umat awam bernama Chattapani yang merupakan seorang anagami tinggal di Savatthi. Pada satu kesempatan, Chattapani menghadap Sang Buddha di Vihara Jetavana, mendengarkan khotbah Dhamma dengan penuh hormat dan penuh perhatian.

Ketika itu Raja Pasenadi juga sedang mengunjungi Sang Buddha. Chattapani tidak berdiri sebab dia berpikir bahwa berdiri berarti dia memberikan hormat kepada raja bukan kepada Sang Buddha. Raja menganggap hal ini adalah suatu penghinaan dan melanggar peraturan. Sang buddha mengetahui pemikiran Raja Pasenadi; maka Beliau memuji Chattapani, yang sangat baik dalam Dhamma dan juga telah mencapai tingkat kesucian anagami.

Mendengar hal ini, Raja Pasenadi sangat terpesona dan memberikan penghormatan kepada Chattapani.

Pada pertemuan berikutnya, raja bertemu dengan Chattapani dan berkata, "Anda sangat pandai; dapatkah anda datang ke istana dan memberikan pelajaran Dhamma kepada kedua orang istriku?"

Chattapani menolak tetapi beliau menyarankan untuk meminta izin kepada Sang Buddha agar menugaskan seorang bhikkhu untuk memberikan pelajaran Dhamma. Raja menghampiri Sang Buddha dan menceritakan maksudnya. Sang Buddha memerintahkan Ananda untuk memberikan pelajaran Dhamma secara teratur kepada Ratu Mallika dan Ratu Vasabhakhattiya di istana.

Setelah beberapa waktu, Sang Buddha bertanya kepada Ananda tentang kemajuan dari kedua orang ratu tersebut. Ananda menjawab bahwa Ratu Mallika mendengarkan Dhamma dengan sungguh-sungguh, sedagkan Vasabhakhattiya tidak sungguh-sungguh belajar Dhamma. Mendengar ini Sang Buddha berkata bahwa Dhamma akan memberikan manfaat bagi seseorang yang mempelajarinya dengan sungguh-sungguh, penuh hormat, dan penuh perhatian serta rajin mempraktekkan apa yang telah dipelajari.

Kemudian Sang Buddha membabarkan syair 51 dan 52 berikut:

Bagaikan sekuntum bunga yang indah tetapi tidak berbau harum; demikian pula akan tidak bermanfaat kata-kata mutiara yang diucapkan oleh orang yang tidak melaksanakannya.

Bagaikan sekuntum bunga yang indah serta berbau harum; demikian pula sungguh bermanfaat kata-kata mutiara yang diucapkan oleh orang yang melaksanakannya.

Sumber:

Dhammapada Atthakatha —Kisah-kisah Dhammapada, Bhikkhu Jotidhammo (editor), Vidyasena Vihara Vidyaloka, Yogyakarta, 1997.
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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #26 on: 10 July 2010, 03:17:10 PM »
Being a beginner (who is also having a lot of anxieties about life in her mind, lol), I am very interested at the practical side of Buddhism, because I am desperate for peace of mind, and because there are soooo many to learn. We all have to start from somewhere, isn't it.

Today someone gave me a link to Bhikku Bodhi's "Questions on Kamma": http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud/ebdha057.htm. The points that I wish to take up immediately are:

The Buddha says: "Monks it is volition that I call kamma. For having willed, one then acts by body, speech or mind". .... What really lies behind all action, the essence of all action, is volition, the power of the will.

When a willed action is performed it leaves a track in the mind, an imprint which can mark the beginning of a new mental tendency. It has a tendency to repeat itself, to reproduce itself, somewhat like a protozon, like an amoeba. As these actions multiply, they form our character. Our personality is nothing but a sum of all our willed actions, a cross-section of all our accumulated kamma.

That is why the Buddha emphasizes, so strongly the need to be mindful of every action, of every choice. For every choice of ours has a tremendous potential for the future.

It is true that very often we have to reap the results of our past kamma. But the important point to understand is that kamma is volitional action, and volitional action always takes place in the present, only in the present. This means at present it is possible for us to change the entire direction of our life.

If we closely examine our lives we'll see that our experience is of two types: first, experience that comes to us passively, which we receive independently of our choice; and second, experience which we create for ourselves through our choices and attitudes. The passive side of experience is largely the effect of past kamma.We generally have to face this and learn to accept it. But within those limitations there is a space, the tremendous space of the present moment, in which we can reconstruct our world with our own minds.


Those, combined with this post by Bro. Tesla on Abhidhamma class: http://dhammacitta.org/forum/index.php/topic,2878.30.html about Akusala Cetasika that are non-LDM and how to prevent them:

Bukan kelompok LDM :
12. Thina (malas)
13. MIddha (lamban)
14. Vicikiccha (ragu-ragu)

Viriya = semangat (daya tahan batin/endurance), faktor batin yang membangkitkan semangat dan memiliki ciri khas mendukung, mengukuhkan, mempertahankan faktor-faktor batin.

Kayalahuta & Cittalahuta = Faktor batin yang bertanggung jawab di dalam keringanan/kecepatan faktor-faktor batin dan kesadaran di dalam menanggapi objek. Faktor batin ini merupakan lawan dari thina-middha yang menyebabkan sikap berat batin di dalam menanggapi objek.


Those are gems! So now I understand that our will forms thoughts, speeches, and actions. Willed actions form personality (and kammas). Personality + past kammas = current circumstances. BUT, we are not to despair by thinking that "we are who we are, can't change fate.." because the reversal is always an option.

So for the present moment, what to do is to reform myself, be careful of thina, middha and vicikiccha, then reap the reward  ;D - yeah that's another kind of lobha?

And to keep myself on the path, Tania's post above gave the last nail on the coffin .. oops, I mean the seal on the envelope:

Mendengar ini Sang Buddha berkata bahwa Dhamma akan memberikan manfaat bagi seseorang yang mempelajarinya dengan sungguh-sungguh, penuh hormat, dan penuh perhatian serta rajin mempraktekkan apa yang telah dipelajari.



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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #27 on: 19 July 2010, 12:36:15 AM »
hi friends .. long time no see ..
Well this is a popular short story from Ajahn Brahm that me and my friends always use in our daily routine .. this may help us to think more and more about how important the debate is. But remember, please use it before talk about your argument, think twice. Because some people cant received if you say, "it's not important enough to talk about" after you said your argument.

well here it is, The Chicken and The Duck
 A newly married couple went for a walk together in a wood, one fine summer’s evening after dinner. They were having such a wonderful time being together until they heard a sound in the distance: ‘Quack! Quack!’

‘Listen,’said the wife, ‘That must be a chicken.’
‘No,no. That was a duck,’ said the husband.
‘No, I’m sure that was a chicken,’ she said.
‘Impossible. Chicken go “Cock-a-doodle-doo”, ducks go “Quack! Quack!” That’s a duck, darling,’ he said, with the first signs of irritation.
‘Quack! Quack!” it went again.
‘See! It’s a duck,’ he said.
‘No dear. That’s a chicken. I’m positive,’ she asserted, digging in her heels.
‘Listen wife! That….is….a…duck. D-U-C-K, duck! Got it?’ he said angrily.
‘But it’s a chicken,’ she protested.
‘It’s a blooming duck, you,you….’
And it went ‘Quack! Quack!’ again before he said something he oughtn’t.
The wife was almost in tears. ‘But it’s a chicken.’
The husband saw the tears welling up in his wife’s eyes and, at last, remembered why he had married her. His face softened and he said gently, ‘Sorry, darling. I think you must be right. This is a chicken.’
‘Thank you, darling.’ She said and she squeezed his hand.
‘Quack! Quack!’ came the sound through the woods, as they continued their walk together in love.

The point of the story that the husband finally awakened to was, who cares whether it is a chicken or a duck? What was much more important was their harmony together , that they could enjoy their walkl on such a fine summer’s evening. How many marriages are broken over the unimportant matters? How many divorces cite ‘chicken or duck’ stuff.

When we understand this story, we will remember our priorities. The marriage is more important than being right about whether it is a chicken or a duck. Anyway, how many times have we been absolutely, certainly and positively convinced we are right, only to find out we were wrong later/ Who knows? That could have been genetically modified chicken made to sound like a duck!

tell this story to all of your friends, to remember them about the priorities .. but dont forget to practice is yourself .. :)

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Re: Let's "blog" together
« Reply #28 on: 05 June 2011, 10:41:19 AM »
Being a beginner (who is also having a lot of anxieties about life in her mind, lol), I am very interested at the practical side of Buddhism, because I am desperate for peace of mind, and because there are soooo many to learn. We all have to start from somewhere, isn't it.

Today someone gave me a link to Bhikku Bodhi's "Questions on Kamma": http://www.buddhanet.net/budsas/ebud/ebdha057.htm. The points that I wish to take up immediately are:

The Buddha says: "Monks it is volition that I call kamma. For having willed, one then acts by body, speech or mind". .... What really lies behind all action, the essence of all action, is volition, the power of the will.

When a willed action is performed it leaves a track in the mind, an imprint which can mark the beginning of a new mental tendency. It has a tendency to repeat itself, to reproduce itself, somewhat like a protozon, like an amoeba. As these actions multiply, they form our character. Our personality is nothing but a sum of all our willed actions, a cross-section of all our accumulated kamma.

That is why the Buddha emphasizes, so strongly the need to be mindful of every action, of every choice. For every choice of ours has a tremendous potential for the future.

It is true that very often we have to reap the results of our past kamma. But the important point to understand is that kamma is volitional action, and volitional action always takes place in the present, only in the present. This means at present it is possible for us to change the entire direction of our life.

If we closely examine our lives we'll see that our experience is of two types: first, experience that comes to us passively, which we receive independently of our choice; and second, experience which we create for ourselves through our choices and attitudes. The passive side of experience is largely the effect of past kamma.We generally have to face this and learn to accept it. But within those limitations there is a space, the tremendous space of the present moment, in which we can reconstruct our world with our own minds.


Those, combined with this post by Bro. Tesla on Abhidhamma class: http://dhammacitta.org/forum/index.php/topic,2878.30.html about Akusala Cetasika that are non-LDM and how to prevent them:

Bukan kelompok LDM :
12. Thina (malas)
13. MIddha (lamban)
14. Vicikiccha (ragu-ragu)

Viriya = semangat (daya tahan batin/endurance), faktor batin yang membangkitkan semangat dan memiliki ciri khas mendukung, mengukuhkan, mempertahankan faktor-faktor batin.

Kayalahuta & Cittalahuta = Faktor batin yang bertanggung jawab di dalam keringanan/kecepatan faktor-faktor batin dan kesadaran di dalam menanggapi objek. Faktor batin ini merupakan lawan dari thina-middha yang menyebabkan sikap berat batin di dalam menanggapi objek.


Those are gems! So now I understand that our will forms thoughts, speeches, and actions. Willed actions form personality (and kammas). Personality + past kammas = current circumstances. BUT, we are not to despair by thinking that "we are who we are, can't change fate.." because the reversal is always an option.

So for the present moment, what to do is to reform myself, be careful of thina, middha and vicikiccha, then reap the reward  ;D - yeah that's another kind of lobha?

And to keep myself on the path, Tania's post above gave the last nail on the coffin .. oops, I mean the seal on the envelope:

Mendengar ini Sang Buddha berkata bahwa Dhamma akan memberikan manfaat bagi seseorang yang mempelajarinya dengan sungguh-sungguh, penuh hormat, dan penuh perhatian serta rajin mempraktekkan apa yang telah dipelajari.



EDIT:
What is GRP?


after long time...where are you now sis...?

hopefully u read this thread again....

GRP means, Good Reputation Posts. after u have 1000 posts then u can send GRP/BRP to others.

i interested with ur considered : So for the present moment, what to do is to reform myself, be careful of thina, middha and vicikiccha, then reap the reward  ;D - yeah that's another kind of lobha?, because for my opinion this is mental factors different with lobha. if not wrong thina, middha and vicikiccha are the unwholesome factors (14 akusalacetasika).
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