Author Topic: Truthful (Read 16713 times)

Hendra Susanto · « **on:** 25 July 2007, 11:49:28 PM »

ok how about this topic..
what's truthful??
let me be the first, truthful is saying the true facts about something, even though u will be in danger like in the court. it needs a great courage for saying the truth.
c'mon your opinion please

ryu · « **Reply #1 on:** 26 July 2007, 12:04:07 AM »

Truthfull is be u`r self.

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #2 on:** 26 July 2007, 12:18:13 AM »

Quote from: ryu on 26 July 2007, 12:04:07 AM

Truthfull is be u`r self.

to your self means my self?? what about being truth to others??

ryu · « **Reply #3 on:** 26 July 2007, 12:38:03 AM »

If u can be truth 2 u'r self, then u can make other see who u are. (i am sorry for my bad english, because i don't learn seriously in my school) to many sleep in the class.

Sumedho · « **Reply #4 on:** 26 July 2007, 05:34:51 AM »

"If you can true to yourself", i believe that the better phrase to use.

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #5 on:** 26 July 2007, 11:34:35 AM »

ok.. another opinion please my friends...

Forte · « **Reply #6 on:** 26 July 2007, 10:29:06 PM »

truth is the act that if we do it, make us comfortable and will not be regretted in heart

sorry for my poor english.

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #7 on:** 26 July 2007, 11:47:35 PM »

Quote from: Hedi Kasmanto on 26 July 2007, 10:29:06 PM

truth is the act that if we do it, make us comfortable and will not be regretted in heart

sorry for my poor english.

good English don't have to say sorry my friend... being truth make us comfortable only for us i believe that, what about someone who being our truthful i think he/she will be mad.. in other word, the truthful we confess will bring them to the great madness
English correction mode on please

Forte · « **Reply #8 on:** 27 July 2007, 06:10:12 AM »

Truthful that I mean is speaking about something with right words, right attitudes, right place, and right time to speak about it. So I think if we confess about it won't bring them to great madness.

I think if we do it, we can train our self to act based on "Pancasila Buddhist" especially 4th Sila.

Sumedho · « **Reply #9 on:** 27 July 2007, 07:34:55 AM »

5 precept, especially the 4th precept

We often mixed Sila in (sila samadhi panna) with Sila in (Pancasila, which is only known in Indonesia). So confusing lar

ryu · « **Reply #10 on:** 27 July 2007, 07:55:02 AM »

If we speak the truth and hurting some people, maybe it's her/his karma for doing bad action. (sorry, please correct my english) i comot in my mind seh.

Forte · « **Reply #11 on:** 27 July 2007, 08:12:09 AM »

Quote from: Sumedho on 27 July 2007, 07:34:55 AM

5 precept, especially the 4th precept

It is often we mixed Sila in (sila samadhi panna) with Sila in (Pancasila, which is only known in Indonesia). So confusing lar

Thanks 4 the correction .. Master

I forgot "Sila" means Precept

[at] Bro. Ryu..
I comot too from my mind..

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #12 on:** 31 July 2007, 03:33:08 PM »

truthful comes form the mind through your heart or vice versa?? please needed opinion my friends

yulistina · « **Reply #13 on:** 31 July 2007, 08:01:41 PM »

I guess, there would be no regret, if you' re truthful enough in every word you say, in every thing you do, in every way you think...

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #14 on:** 31 July 2007, 10:15:04 PM »

speaking about regret, do you regret the truthful that your confess to other is unacceptable by them??

El Sol · « **Reply #15 on:** 03 August 2007, 03:07:17 AM »

Quote from: Sumedho on 27 July 2007, 07:34:55 AM

5 precept, especially the 4th precept

We often mixed Sila in (sila samadhi panna) with Sila in (Pancasila, which is only known in Indonesia). So confusing lar

wait a minute...I kinda recognize your slang..the word "lar" is either used by Malaysian or Singaporean...did you stay in Malaysia or Singapore before? I mean..for a long time...^^

Sumedho · « **Reply #16 on:** 03 August 2007, 08:46:49 AM »

aiyoh, that's the way we speak lar. if you mixed hokkien with english, there - you got singlish

doesn't matter whether i ever stay there or not

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #17 on:** 03 August 2007, 11:09:20 PM »

ohh really?? i thought "lah" in the end for singlish

Sumedho · « **Reply #18 on:** 03 August 2007, 11:22:11 PM »

actually it's more to "lar" than "lah". "lah" has more weight at the 'h' and while singaporean don't pronounce 'r' so clearly, 'lar' is the better one

CMIIW

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #19 on:** 03 August 2007, 11:33:43 PM »

oh i see...

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singaporean don't pronounce...

if i'm not mistaken u should use "doesn't"

Sumedho · « **Reply #20 on:** 03 August 2007, 11:52:23 PM »

thanks bro.

or the "singaporean" should be changed to "singaporeans"

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #21 on:** 03 August 2007, 11:53:48 PM »

yes.. correct man..

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #22 on:** 03 August 2007, 11:55:05 PM »

let's practice our english.. another opinion please..

Forte · « **Reply #23 on:** 04 August 2007, 06:45:54 AM »

confused mode on..
Let's coffee break in this morning to reduce it..

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #24 on:** 04 August 2007, 09:29:10 AM »

El Sol · « **Reply #25 on:** 07 August 2007, 10:38:35 PM »

Quote from: Hendra Susanto on 03 August 2007, 11:33:43 PM

oh i see...
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singaporean don't pronounce...
if i'm not mistaken u should use "doesn't"

aiyah...our Admin got Phd in Singlish mahhh...RUN FOR MY LIFE!!

yulistina · « **Reply #26 on:** 08 August 2007, 10:37:13 PM »

Quote from: Hendra Susanto on 31 July 2007, 10:15:04 PM

speaking about regret, do you regret the truthful that your confess to other is unacceptable by them??

There would be no regret to reveal the truth, as long as that truth is NECESSARY to be spoken, with no intention to hurt anyone. Should it be painful to someone, she/he would better face it, therefore she/he could manage some action to deal with it. White lie seems to be right at the first place, but it can draw back somebody to the worse situation.

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #27 on:** 08 August 2007, 10:43:03 PM »

Quote from: yulistina on 08 August 2007, 10:37:13 PM

Quote from: Hendra Susanto on 31 July 2007, 10:15:04 PM
speaking about regret, do you regret the truthful that your confess to other is unacceptable by them??

There would be no regret to reveal the truth, as long as that truth is NECESSARY to be spoken, with no intention to hurt anyone. Should it be painful to someone, she/he would better face it, therefore she/he could manage some action to deal with it. White lie seems to be right at the first place, but it can draw back somebody to the worse situation.

ohhh really nice posting...

need more lecture from you Guru

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #28 on:** 08 August 2007, 10:45:33 PM »

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White lie seems to be right at the first place, but it can draw back somebody to the worse situation.

about white lie, do you think our mother did that when we're children even now could so??

Sumedho · « **Reply #29 on:** 09 August 2007, 07:49:07 AM »

of course they did. (our parents)
I try not to do that too now.

I have memories back then where my parents were telling white lies and i know and still remember they were lies. They stop when I ignore those lies

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #30 on:** 09 August 2007, 04:06:59 PM »

ok then we will be parents one day, what are you going to do?? telling your children white lies or not??
i think, i will do that it's quite hard for children to understand something truth or not.. n the time will answer that whether right or wrong... for the mean time let me telling the white lies to my children for their kindness..

san · « **Reply #31 on:** 16 September 2007, 12:09:48 PM »

I ever read, even Lord Buddha will not answer questions if the answer is not at correct time or can bring false understanding to anyone who hear it. So when the time is not right or cannot be understand by someone who ask for an answer, silence is the best thing we can do. But if we silence without explanation, then may be our children could get wrong answer from wrong person. Sorry for my bad english.

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #32 on:** 16 September 2007, 02:16:45 PM »

don't be so naive my friend...

it would be better if u could answer it even white lie than someone like u said "inappropriate" do that
it's for our kids kindness..

El Sol · « **Reply #33 on:** 16 September 2007, 10:56:05 PM »

silent is a type of communication...by giving silence towards your children will certainly create misunderstanding...so I agree with San...

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #34 on:** 16 September 2007, 11:27:39 PM »

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by giving silence towards your children will certainly create misunderstanding...

please explain the bold more clearly.. bro

El Sol · « **Reply #35 on:** 17 September 2007, 12:03:33 AM »

Quote from: Hendra Susanto on 16 September 2007, 11:27:39 PM

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by giving silence towards your children will certainly create misunderstanding...
please explain the bold more clearly.. bro

ups sorry for the word certainly...

it's supposed to be 'Might'

san · « **Reply #36 on:** 17 September 2007, 06:27:44 AM »

Then i think we should understand about the kids first. If our silence could get accepted then silence is the best answer. But if silence not the best answer for kids, then white lies could be the best next answer, avoid kids from wrong answer from wrong person and avoid them from bad condition. But white lies could decrease kids trust for you, until they understand why we did that and forgive us. If they don't, then it's our risk.
Losing our kids/make them in bad condition because our silence or losing our trust from them because our white lies.
I think if it's our own kids then when the situation comes, we know what the best for them.
Every action, even no action has it's own risk.

Hendra Susanto · « **Reply #37 on:** 17 September 2007, 09:39:06 PM »

this time of age, kids are critical.. do you think golden silence like u said could appease them??? even if we answer it kids might be find another way to get that.. so i think it's depend on the situation, for me i will answer it even lying..
$_/\_$

oddiezz · « **Reply #38 on:** 04 October 2007, 11:42:47 AM »

Quote from: Sumedho on 26 July 2007, 05:34:51 AM

"If you can true to yourself", i believe that the better phrase to use.

if you can be true to yourself ?

mushroom_kick · « **Reply #39 on:** 12 January 2008, 10:00:35 PM »

truthful ehm ehm!!
IMO truthful is white area, but sometimes we can not always walk in white area, there're grey or black or any different colour area.
Thuthful can be real pain.
Sorry fo my poor english, correct me if i'm wrong