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« Reply #315 on: 08 January 2013, 12:56:58 PM »
Ada gak yang mempunyai pengalaman pernah depresi berat atau trauma bagaimana cara mengatasinnya.adakah yang tahu gak???? soalnya pikiran negatif itu muncul terus menerus.
Bagi seekor burung rajawali,
satu-satunya hambatan untuk terbang lebih cepat dan nyaman adalah udara.
Tetapi jika udara itu diambil dan
burung tersebut dibiarkan terbang dalam kehampaan tanpa udara, burung rajawali itu segera jatuh ke tanah dan tidak dapat terbang sama sekali.

Hambatan utama yang harus diatasi oleh sebuah perahu bermotor adalah air yang menyentuh baling-baling perahu. Tetapi jika tidak ada air sebagai penahan, perahu ini justru tidak dapat bergerak sama sekali.

***manusia yang hidup tanpa banyak menghadapi masalah,maka manusia itu bagaikan terbelenggu dan otaknya jadi beku.

***masalah yang sama,akan dirasakan beda oleh manusia yang berbeda,misalnya ditinggal pacar,si A bisa gantung diri,tapi si B hanya menderita 1 minggu.----jadi berat ringannya masalah itu sangat relatif,ambil intinya saja----kenapa dia mampu tapi saya tidak mampu?

***jangan takut mendapat masalah,tapi takutlah bila anda tidak mampu menghadapi masalah,tapi orang lain mampu.

***JINAKKAN SEBUAH MASALAH menjadi TIDAK MASALAH.

***Bila anda tahu seorang teman anda jarang ada masalah----jangan keburu iri dan cemburu,karena teman anda justru tidak berkesempatan belajar menjinakkan masalah.
Bila anda tahu seorang teman anda sering mendapat masalah----jangan keburu mengasihaninya,karena bila dia mampu mengatasinya,maka dia akan lebih dewasa dari anda.

semoga bermanfaat.


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Re: DEPRESI
« Reply #316 on: 08 January 2013, 01:13:25 PM »
sepertinya kalian menganggapku supaya merasa dikasihani maaf sepertinya saya telah salah curhat di forum ini.
bukan gt sis, emang mungkin bahasa sy agak (maybe terlalu?) kasar, tapi niat saya bukan ingin menghina/melecehkan anda sama sekali, itu tidak ada gunanya bagi saya kok... ;D
maksud saya adalah coba agar sis merenungkan kembali gejolak batin dalam diri anda, mungkin saja masalah yang dihadapi tidak seberat yang dipikirkan,,,
mind always make things harder.. ;D

yah kalo omongan saya emang dirasa menyinggung, lebih baik sy undur diri saja.... :)
hiduplah hanya pada hari ini, jangan mengkhawatirkan masa depan ataupun terpuruk dalam masa lalu.
berbahagialah akan apa yang anda miliki, jangan mengejar keinginan akan memiliki
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Re: DEPRESI
« Reply #317 on: 08 January 2013, 01:43:37 PM »
bukan gt sis, emang mungkin bahasa sy agak (maybe terlalu?) kasar, tapi niat saya bukan ingin menghina/melecehkan anda sama sekali, itu tidak ada gunanya bagi saya kok... ;D
maksud saya adalah coba agar sis merenungkan kembali gejolak batin dalam diri anda, mungkin saja masalah yang dihadapi tidak seberat yang dipikirkan,,,
mind always make things harder.. ;D

yah kalo omongan saya emang dirasa menyinggung, lebih baik sy undur diri saja.... :)
gak mungkin memang saya yang terlalu salah.

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« Reply #318 on: 08 January 2013, 01:51:14 PM »
buat silvia liem, klo boleh coba lah untuk melihat, merenungkan dalam2 dan membandingkan tingkat depresimu dengan orang yang lumpuh selama 15 tahun seperti di link ini.



hehehe, dimengerti  sist ;D

[at]  Mas Tidar: saya memang tidak bilang lilin kok... saya hanya bilang api. Kalo lilin, memang ga bisa. Saya pernah nge-test letakkan panci di atas lilin untuk mendidihkan air, dan akhirnya setelah beberapa menit saya tau kalo uji-coba ini tidak akan berhasil ;D

Maksud saya kemarin itu, api dari kompor. Karena saya pernah masak air pake api kecil. Dan saat itu terpikirkan 2 hal: fokus dan konsistensi...

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Re: DEPRESI
« Reply #319 on: 08 January 2013, 03:01:49 PM »
Depresi----degradasi ketahanan mental,

Ekspresi manusia yang kehabisan akal,

Pedoman dan keyakinan bathin terpental,

Renungkanlah apa yang menjadi pangkal.

Evaluasi diri dengan hukum alam yang kekal,

Semua derita adalah akhir dari sebuah awal,

Ingatlah ! depresi hanyalah luapan emosional.

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Re: DEPRESI
« Reply #320 on: 08 January 2013, 04:41:53 PM »
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Berada di kantor dan menghabiskan sebagian besar waktu di sana tentunya Anda harus bisa berinteraksi baik dengan rekan kerja. Berikut ini beberapa langkah yang bisa Anda ikuti untuk menjalin hubungan baik dengan teman-teman di kantor.

1.Berikan senyuman
Tak ada salahnya melemparkan senyuman dan menyapa rekan kerja Anda setiap harinya begitu sampai kantor. Bersikap sopan dapat menyenangkan hati orang lain sekaligus memberikan kesan baik bagi Anda di mata mereka.

2.Rajin berinteraksi
Lakukan interaksi dengan kolega setiap kali ada kesempatan. Cari tahu apa yang menjadi ketertarikan mereka, misalnya jenis musik yang didengarkan, buku yang mereka baca, atau film yang mereka sukai. Dengan mengetahui hal-hal tersebut bisa jadi pembuka obrolan santai Anda.

3.Jangan gampang tersinggung
Jika rekan kerja melontarkan lelulon tentang Anda, tak perlu langsung marah dan menyerangnya, cukup tertawa saja. Humor bisa membentuk hubungan dengan rekan kerja dan sesekali diperlukan untuk meredakan stres di kantor. Namun, jika lelulon tersebut terasa kelewatan, misalnya melecehkan atau merendahkan, Anda bisa meminta pihak ketiga sebagai penengah. Jika itu yang terjadi, pastikan emosi Anda tetap terkontrol.

4.Beri pujian
Sesekali berikan pujian jika rekan kerja Anda berhasil mencapai sesuatu. Akan lebih penting untuk fokus kepada pekerjaan baik yang dilakukan rekan kerja, ketimbang melihat hal-hal negatif yang dia lakukan.

5.Tunjukkan rasa hormat
Tunjukkan rasa hormat kepada rekan kerja Anda dengan mematuhi etiket di kantor atau dengan menanggapi e-mail dan pesan dari rekan kerja. Bila Anda mengabaikan pesan yang diberikan oleh rekan kerja, apalagi seputar informasi yang dibutuhkan untuk pekerjaan, dia dapat merasa diremehkan. (ehow/aw)

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Re: DEPRESI
« Reply #321 on: 08 January 2013, 04:51:58 PM »
Coba ikut latihan taichi, chikung atau yoga. Itu bisa membantu mengatasi depresi anda
Berbuat Baik dan Melatih Diri sebaiknya dilakukan sedari muda. Jangan menunggu sudah bungkuk, pikun, mata rabun, jalan pakai tongkat baru mau Berbuat Baik dan Melatih Diri

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« Reply #322 on: 08 January 2013, 04:53:52 PM »
Sambil coba aktif ikut kegiatan sosial seperti Tzu Chi. Jd anda tidak merasa masalah anda yg paling berat krn di luar sana byk org yg mengalami masalah yg lebih berat drpd anda
Berbuat Baik dan Melatih Diri sebaiknya dilakukan sedari muda. Jangan menunggu sudah bungkuk, pikun, mata rabun, jalan pakai tongkat baru mau Berbuat Baik dan Melatih Diri

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Re: DEPRESI
« Reply #323 on: 01 February 2013, 10:26:01 AM »
amithofo semuanya mohon doanya semoga saya bisa melewati rintangan kali ini dengan baik.

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« Reply #324 on: 01 February 2013, 10:29:23 AM »
amithofo semuanya mohon doanya semoga saya bisa melewati rintangan kali ini dengan baik.

Sadhu..........  _/\_
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« Reply #325 on: 01 February 2013, 10:55:49 AM »
amithofo semuanya mohon doanya semoga saya bisa melewati rintangan kali ini dengan baik.

Semua mendoakan. Semoga rintangan bisa membuat kita lebih kuat.  _/\_

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« Reply #326 on: 28 July 2015, 08:21:16 PM »
Untuk kalangan tertentu akan mengatakan,sadari "nuansa" apa yang muncul dipikiran saat itu.
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« Reply #327 on: 29 July 2015, 08:26:36 AM »
Sambil coba aktif ikut kegiatan sosial seperti Tzu Chi. Jd anda tidak merasa masalah anda yg paling berat krn di luar sana byk org yg mengalami masalah yg lebih berat drpd anda
jawaban yg manis sekali....

cumpol mau tanya apa manfaat dari hal2 yg kurang baik...
   spt dihina, dicaci maki orang, bahkan difitnah... dan miskin..
   ataupun depresi berat...

adakah manfaat dari hal2 tsb ?
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« Reply #328 on: 29 July 2015, 09:48:25 AM »
Itukan pupuk,lihat saja yang mana tumbuh subur.
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« Reply #329 on: 12 April 2019, 09:54:00 AM »
a though provoking writing

https://www.bhantedhammika.net/coping-with-depression-the-buddhist-way

Coping with Depression the Buddhist Way
A talk given in Singapore on 22nd June 1986
by Bhante Dhammika
Transcribed by Amila Nipun Ganegoda

I would like to talk about a problem that has become increasingly common in modern societies like Singapore and other developed countries, and that’s the problem of depression. When you look at traditional societies you see that they don’t even seem to have a word for this problem. That’s not because people in such societies didn’t get down in the dumps sometimes, it is not because depression was unknown; it was. But certainly it appears that it was not as common as it has become in most modern, affluent industrial societies. In fact, depression has become so common that companies which manufacture antidepressants such as Fluoxetine, Valium, Prozac and similar drugs, make massive profits. If you want to make a good return on your investment put your money in a company that sells antidepressants. Because so many people have become so depressed, life for them apparently being meaningless, the only way they can get through it is with the help of antidepressants.

As we just said, depression is not unique to modern societies and it is not a new problem either. In fact, it is described in ways familiar to us in the Buddhist scriptures. We have several words or terms in English for the different types and intensities of depression – melancholy, despondency, being downcast, being gloomy, etc. Winston Churchill used to suffer bouts of severe depression and called it his “black dog”. The main word for depression in Buddhism is visāda. The word soka is often used for grief, the type of depression usually associated with the death of a loved one. However, the Buddha also used soka for a range of negative feelings accompanying loss, failure, self-deprecation and fear of death. He describes the symptoms associated with guilty rumination like this. “When a fool is on his chair or bed or resting on the ground, then the evil bodily, verbal or mental deeds he did in the past cover, shroud and envelope him. Just as the shadow of a great mountain peak in the evening covers, shrouds and envelops the earth, so too, the evil bodily, verbal or mental deeds the fool did in the past cover, shroud and envelope him. Then the fool thinks ‘I have not done what is good, I have done evil’ and he sorrows, becomes downcast, laments, weeps, beats his breast and feels distraught.” Some of the other symptoms associated with depression as described by the Buddha and immediately recognizable to a modern clinician include loss of interest in work and food, drooped shoulders, gloomy expression, brooding and being uncommunicative.

We could say that there are three types of depression. The first type is due to some chemical malfunction in the brain. This type of depression sometimes responds to drug therapy so we will not talk about it here. Leaving it aside, there are two other types. There is what we might call occasional depression, and then there is what we can call existential depression. Let us have a look at the first of these for a while because it is quite common. We all feel sad, we all grieve, we all feel down in the dumps, gloomy, moody or depressed from time to time. In such a state we may feel boredom, a loss of interest, we may cry or feel like crying, and this may continue for some time. But eventually, in a few days or a week or two, we usually get over it. This occasional depression can be caused by a variety of things, some of the most common being the unexpected death of a loved one or a major setback in life. You might say that occasional depression has a rational basis. For example, if somebody we know and love has been very ill for a long time, and we have been expecting them to die, and they do die, we might go through a period of sadness but we are unlikely to become depressed. Having had time to psychologically prepare for their passing we are shielded from depression. Likewise, if a loved one dies at the ripe old age of 85, 90, 95 we will feel sad for a while but we are unlikely to become depressed. Knowing that they have had a long life, that they have come to the end of their natural life-span, we accept their passing as a part of the natural course of things. However, if a couple have just married and one dies, or if a relatively young person dies, or if someone dies suddenly and unexpectedly, it is not uncommon for their parents, siblings and friends experience grief that extends into depression for quite some time. But even then eventually they will recover and return to their ordinary state.

Sometimes we feel depressed because of failures in life leave us with a sense of inadequacy. This aspect of depression is a serious problem here in Singapore and in societies like Japan, very competitive societies where great stress is put on being successful, first, top, or “ahead of the pack”, as they say. Even some approaches to religion contribute to this stress-causing attitude. I saw a sign outside a church just recently which was headlined “Be a Winner!” The pressure to “be a winner” is particularly hard on young people. They are required to live with the stress that even adults have difficulties coping with. Prior to exams there is a tremendous anxiety and worry, after the exams, depending on what the results are, there is a feeling of relief and elation or depression. Failing to live up to one’s own and other’s expectations and demands can cause one to feel shame, inadequacy and depression.

Another cause of depression is a sense of loss in relation to success, wealth, fame or youth. I have frequently come across people who have told me that their business was going well, everything was marvellous, and then they lost everything in 1983/84 when there were problems in the economy in Singapore. They lived in a million-dollar flat, now they live in a $200,000 flat. They used to have five cars and now they have one. They used to send their kids to Raffles, now they go to the less prestigious Outram Secondary. And as a result of this they feel quite depressed. There is still enough to eat, they are still financial secure, but in terms of what they had before they have a sense of loss, that they have “come down in the world”, as the saying goes. This sort of thing is common in the world of entertainment. You frequently hear has-been entertainers bemoaning the fact that once they were in the spotlight, that the paparazzi chased after them, that their doings were reported in the popular press, that fans wanted their autograph, that their next film was a source of interest, and that now no one takes any notice of them. Many such entertainers find it very difficult to adjust to going from celebrity to obscurity and they often try to cope with it with alcohol or other drugs.

But perhaps the most common form of occasional depression due to the loss of something is related to aging. When we are young we have vigour, health and good looks. And then as we age, one by one, these gifts take their leave from us. Many people adjust to this process quite well. They take heed of the advice of the Desiderata and “take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth”. But some people, particularly those who had an action-packed youth; successful sportspersons, glamorous actors or actresses, top models and so on, look upon aging with foreboding and dread. They become overly anxious about their health, their looks, how they are perceived by others. Of course you can stave this off the signs of aging for a given period of time. And now with science and plastic surgery you can make yourself look younger. You can put padding in here, there, everywhere, you can wear a wig, dye your hair, have a facelift, have several facelifts, get a much younger boyfriend or girlfriend, you can have Botox injections. When all such things can no longer disguise the truth, those who have done this fall into depression. So all this would be examples of depression we have from time to time; they are related to certain events or certain circumstances.

Is there anything we can do to help us shake off such occasional depression to that it is not prolonged to the degree that it becomes a problem? According to the Buddha a natural part of reality is what he called the Eight Worldly Realities (aṭṭhaloka dhamma). These are Gain and Loss, Obscurity and Fame, Blame and Praise, Happiness and Sadness. If you look at ordinary human life, you will see that it is an interplay, an alternating sequence of these states. One may last longer than another, one may be more intense than another, several may occur at the same time, but sooner or later they will give way to one of the others. We are the centre of attention now, fade into insignificant later and then perhaps become famous again. We were poor, then we became rich and now we have lost it all. The so-called Positive Thinking Movement, in either its secular or religious forms, promises that if we just keep negative thoughts at bay, keep repeating positive phrases, and “set goals and go for them” we will fulfil all our dreams and desires. Such comforting but deluded ideas do not prepare us for the inevitable ups and downs of life – in fact they un-prepare us for them. Keeping in mind the Eight Worldly Realities holds us back from going overboard when we have gains, fame, praise and happiness, and prevent us from becoming too cast-down and despairing when we have loss, obscurity, blame and sadness. Being sad and depressed but reminding ourselves that it is natural and normal to sometimes feel like that and that “this too shall pass” is strangely empowering. It gives you the strength to endure it and the patience to see it out. The Buddha’s advice to give occasional thought to the Eight Worldly Realities is one of his most practical gifts to humanity.

However, there is another type of depression which is becoming increasingly common and which we may call existential depression. This is when people suffer from depression for extended periods, and to the degree that it starts to effect normal functioning within society. They become melancholic, gloomy, pessimistic, withdrawn, they suffer from what is called chronic depression. Now there are certain reasons for this too. A great deal has been written on it, doctors are often confronted by it, as are psychiatrists. There has been a lot of discussion as to why it is that in societies that are relatively affluent, secure and where there’s a great deal of opportunity, why there is so many people suffering from chronic depression.

Well, the first cause of this, and one that is not always taken into account, is that it may be a result of deep insight. If it is true, as the Buddha says, that “existence is suffering”, and if we come to see this deeply and truly, it may indeed make us feel rather depressed, at least for a while. If it is true that loss follows from gain, and sadness follows from happiness; and indeed that life ends in death, then perhaps it is understandable that people become depressed. When they have a good hard look at reality, it is understandable that some people may feel gloomy. And of course it is not only Buddhism that says that life is suffering. Perhaps the most profound books in the Bible, certainly the most philosophical, is Ecclesiastes, which opens with these words: “Vanity of vanities! All is vanity. What does man gain by all the toil at which he toils under the sun? A generation goes, and a generation comes, but the earth remains forever. The sun rises, and then goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises. All streams run to the sea, but the sea is not full. All things are full of weariness; a man cannot utter it; the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing. What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.”

Commentaries on these powerful words often say that they were composed by a tired old man. But why should this be so? Perhaps they were written by a thoughtful, observant young man. Bertrand Russell, certainly no pessimist, said that “the world is horrible, horrible, horrible!” One of the more popular and influential philosophers of this century, Jean-Paul Sartre, said that “life is nothing more than a useless passion”. Even the existentialists Christian and philosopher Søren Kierkegaard, came to the conclusion that life is absolutely meaningless. People have often suggested that these philosophers were pessimistic. But if we look at most of these philosophers we discover that they weren’t particularly pessimistic in how they lived their lives. When you read their writing you might get that impression. But somebody like Jean-Paul Sartre led a very full, a very fruitful, and apparently a relatively happy life; certainly no less happy than the majority of people. And Bertrand Russell can truly be said to have “lived life to the full” in every sense of the term and he had a wonderful sense of humour. Simply putting one’s finger on reality, and seeing in some senses it is meaningless and empty doesn’t necessarily lead to depression. Wise people see life as meaningless and decide to give meaning to it, to fill the void with something worthwhile. I would say that the Buddha was one such person. But some people do not have the resources to do this and this truth makes them depressed. And probably the reason for this is that they have come to understand that life has not fulfilled their expectations. They have wanted life to be one particularly way. It is emerged that it is not like that; they wanted life to be full and fulfilling, they wanted things to go the way they wanted, they wanted to live forever, they wanted be continually happy. They find that life isn’t like that, it doesn’t work that way, and they plunge into depression. They decide to turn their back on a world that has disappointed them and they become profoundly depressed.

But there are other approaches to having a deeper understanding to the nature of reality. Some people see that life can be rather meaningless, that no matter how sweet the fruit you get, it all ends in death. So rather than becoming depressed, they decide “Okay! I have a few more years to go, a few more decades, and by god I’m going to enjoy it.” They become hedonists, they decide to cram as much pleasure into the time they have left. This attitude is well summed up in that old saying: “Eat drink and be merry, because tomorrow we die.” For a while this approach to life may work, you can stave off reality, you can keep it at bay, but of course one of the ultimate outcomes of hedonism is a slightly different version of depression; becoming bored and jaded. And probably one of the most unendurable of all sufferings is boredom. It is like attending a long uninteresting talk delivered by a particularly uninspiring speaker. You want it to end but it just drags on and on. Some people see life like that, and certainly hedonism usually ends in boredom. The reason for this is because of the very nature of the sense organs. The sense organs have nerves in them and when these nerves are stimulated in a particularly way we experience pleasure. But just as we get calluses on our fingers or hands when we use them often, we get what we might call psychological callused when the sense organs are continually stimulated. If we experience pleasure a lot, we enjoy it; but after a while, to get that same level of satisfaction, we need to stimulate the senses to a higher degree. For a while this delivers fulfilment and satisfaction, and then the senses start to get dull again. And then we need more stimulation; and of course it gets to the stage where, you can’t go beyond a certain point. And then you have boredom, or worse, perversion.

There is another reaction to the realities of life. Some people react too the undesirable aspects of existence by retreating into delusion. They can’t find any meaning in life, they lack the creativity to give it some achievable and worthwhile meaning, so they look for ideologies, philosophies or religions with claim to offer meaning, or at least comforting promises. You can, if you try hard enough, convince yourself that you’re going to live forever in some paradise beyond the clouds. And when you get there you will meet all your friends again, and it will just be wonderful. We’ll all live together forever. Or you can convince yourself that there is a plan, that everything has meaning, that everything that happens, has happened in order to teach us something, to show us something, to deliver justice. And of course it is possible for some people to continue such beliefs for a long time, some people forever. But many people cannot.

Sooner or later, that old spoiler reality breaks through and their delusion is shattered. And then they fall into despair, they have what is called a spiritual crisis. This is not a solution to the problem. So if it’s true that reality is without meaning and that existence is suffering, and if becoming depressed or becoming hedonistic or retreating into delusions are not attractive responses to these realities, what else can we do?