[ask]4 kasina dan Upasamanussati,Aharapatikulasanna,Maranasati dan Catudhatuvava

[Tekkss Katsuo]

sssssttt rahasia ya... ada bocoran nih.

Visuddhimagga memang sudah masuk dalam agenda DC press tapi mungkin diperkirakan selesai tahun 2012 kalau tidak kiamat.

trus kok ada visuddhi magga terjemahan yg saya dapat gt, emank ada versi baru ya ko Indra?

kalo bisa terjemahkan yg di publish oleh Bro SUmedho.. ada yg bisa??

[Indra]

sssssttt rahasia ya... ada bocoran nih.

Visuddhimagga memang sudah masuk dalam agenda DC press tapi mungkin diperkirakan selesai tahun 2012 kalau tidak kiamat.

trus kok ada visuddhi magga terjemahan yg saya dapat gt, emank ada versi baru ya ko Indra?

kalo bisa terjemahkan yg di publish oleh Bro SUmedho.. ada yg bisa??

Visuddhi Magga pernah diterjemahkan dan diterbitkan oleh Mutiara Dhamma Bali, namun ada banyak request yg masuk ke DC press oleh para penggemar DC press untuk diterjemahkan kembali.

yg dipublish oleh Bro Sumedho yg mana ya?

[Tekkss Katsuo]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. haizz.
yang ini Ko Indra


    AN 6.19 PTS: A iii 303
    Maranassati Sutta: Mindfulness of Death (1)
    translated from the Pali by
    Thanissaro Bhikkhu
    © 1997–2010

    I have heard that at one time the Blessed One was staying at Nadika, in the Brick Hall. There he addressed the monks, "Monks!"

    "Yes, lord," the monks replied.

    The Blessed One said, "Mindfulness of death, when developed & pursued, is of great fruit & great benefit. It gains a footing in the Deathless, has the Deathless as its final end. Therefore you should develop mindfulness of death."

    When this was said, a certain monk addressed the Blessed One, "I already develop mindfulness of death."

    "And how do you develop mindfulness of death?"

    "I think, 'O, that I might live for a day & night, that I might attend to the Blessed One's instructions. I would have accomplished a great deal.' This is how I develop mindfulness of death."

    Then another monk addressed the Blessed One, "I, too, already develop mindfulness of death."

    "And how do you develop mindfulness of death?"

    "I think, 'O, that I might live for a day, that I might attend to the Blessed One's instructions. I would have accomplished a great deal.' This is how I develop mindfulness of death."

    Then another monk addressed the Blessed One, "I, too, develop mindfulness of death." ... "I think, 'O, that I might live for the interval that it takes to eat a meal, that I might attend to the Blessed One's instructions. I would have accomplished a great deal.' ..."

    Then another monk addressed the Blessed One, "I, too, develop mindfulness of death." ... "I think, 'O, that I might live for the interval that it takes to swallow having chewed up four morsels of food, that I might attend to the Blessed One's instructions. I would have accomplished a great deal.' ..."

    Then another monk addressed the Blessed One, "I, too, develop mindfulness of death." ... "I think, 'O, that I might live for the interval that it takes to swallow having chewed up one morsel of food, that I might attend to the Blessed One's instructions. I would have accomplished a great deal.' ..."

    Then another monk addressed the Blessed One, "I, too, develop mindfulness of death." ... "I think, 'O, that I might live for the interval that it takes to breathe out after breathing in, or to breathe in after breathing out, that I might attend to the Blessed One's instructions. I would have accomplished a great deal.' This is how I develop mindfulness of death."

    When this was said, the Blessed One addressed the monks. "Whoever develops mindfulness of death, thinking, 'O, that I might live for a day & night... for a day... for the interval that it takes to eat a meal... for the interval that it takes to swallow having chewed up four morsels of food, that I might attend to the Blessed One's instructions. I would have accomplished a great deal' — they are said to dwell heedlessly. They develop mindfulness of death slowly for the sake of ending the effluents.

    "But whoever develops mindfulness of death, thinking, 'O, that I might live for the interval that it takes to swallow having chewed up one morsel of food... for the interval that it takes to breathe out after breathing in, or to breathe in after breathing out, that I might attend to the Blessed One's instructions. I would have accomplished a great deal' — they are said to dwell heedfully. They develop mindfulness of death acutely for the sake of ending the effluents.

    "Therefore you should train yourselves: 'We will dwell heedfully. We will develop mindfulness of death acutely for the sake of ending the effluents.' That is how you should train yourselves."

    That is what the Blessed One said. Gratified, the monks delighted in the Blessed One's words.

    "Maranassati Sutta: Mindfulness of Death (1)" (AN 6.19), translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. Access to Insight, June 7, 2009, http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an06/an06.019.than.html.



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    AN 6.20 PTS: A iii 306
    Maranassati Sutta: Mindfulness of Death (2)
    translated from the Pali by
    Thanissaro Bhikkhu
    © 1997–2010

    I have heard that at one time the Blessed One was staying at Nadika, in the Brick Hall. There he addressed the monks, "Monks, mindfulness of death — when developed & pursued — is of great fruit & great benefit. It gains a footing in the Deathless, has the Deathless as its final end. And how is mindfulness of death developed & pursued so that it is of great fruit & great benefit, gains a footing in the Deathless, and has the Deathless as its final end?

    "There is the case where a monk, as day departs and night returns, reflects: 'Many are the [possible] causes of my death. A snake might bite me, a scorpion might sting me, a centipede might bite me. That would be how my death would come about. That would be an obstruction for me. Stumbling, I might fall; my food, digested, might trouble me; my bile might be provoked, my phlegm... piercing wind forces [in the body] might be provoked. That would be how my death would come about. That would be an obstruction for me.' Then the monk should investigate: 'Are there any evil, unskillful mental qualities unabandoned by me that would be an obstruction for me were I to die in the night?' If, on reflecting, he realizes that there are evil, unskillful mental qualities unabandoned by him that would be an obstruction for him were he to die in the night, then he should put forth extra desire, effort, diligence, endeavor, undivided mindfulness, & alertness for the abandoning of those very same evil, unskillful qualities. Just as when a person whose turban or head was on fire would put forth extra desire, effort, diligence, endeavor, undivided mindfulness, & alertness to put out the fire on his turban or head, in the same way the monk should put forth extra desire, effort, diligence, endeavor, undivided mindfulness, & alertness for the abandoning of those very same evil, unskillful qualities. But if, on reflecting, he realizes that there are no evil, unskillful mental qualities unabandoned by him that would be an obstruction for him were he to die in the night, then for that very reason he should dwell in joy & rapture, training himself day & night in skillful qualities.

    "Further, there is the case where a monk, as night departs and day returns, reflects: 'Many are the [possible] causes of my death. A snake might bite me, a scorpion might sting me, a centipede might bite me. That would be how my death would come about. That would be an obstruction for me. Stumbling, I might fall; my food, digested, might trouble me; my bile might be provoked, my phlegm... piercing wind forces [in the body] might be provoked. That would be how my death would come about. That would be an obstruction for me.' Then the monk should investigate: 'Are there any evil, unskillful mental qualities unabandoned by me that would be an obstruction for me were I to die during the day?' If, on reflecting, he realizes that there are evil, unskillful mental qualities unabandoned by him that would be an obstruction for him were he to die during the day, then he should put forth extra desire, effort, diligence, endeavor, undivided mindfulness, & alertness for the abandoning of those very same evil, unskillful qualities. Just as when a person whose turban or head was on fire would put forth extra desire, effort, diligence, endeavor, undivided mindfulness, & alertness to put out the fire on his turban or head, in the same way the monk should put forth extra desire, effort, diligence, endeavor, undivided mindfulness, & alertness for the abandoning of those very same evil, unskillful qualities. But if, on reflecting, he realizes that there are no evil, unskillful mental qualities unabandoned by him that would be an obstruction for him were he to die during the day, then for that very reason he should dwell in joy & rapture, training himself day & night in skillful qualities.

    "This, monks, is how mindfulness of death is developed & pursued so that it is of great fruit & great benefit, gains a footing in the Deathless, and has the Deathless as its final end."

    That is what the Blessed One said. Gratified, the monks delighted in the Blessed One's words.

    "Maranassati Sutta: Mindfulness of Death (2)" (AN 6.20), translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. Access to Insight, June 7, 2009, http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an06/an06.020.than.html.

[Indra]

 [at] tekss, wah bukannya saya gak mau terjemahin, tapi itu terlalu pendek

[Sumedho]

hush, buka rahasia dcpress nih....

urusan pendek2x biasa aye yg tackel. tapi ada urusan yg yg lebih pendek lagi nih lagi dikerjain

[Tekkss Katsuo]

[at] tekss, wah bukannya saya gak mau terjemahin, tapi itu terlalu pendek

=_=" .......  ya saya sendiri jg bisa terjemahkan sich. wlkwklwkwkwkwkwkwkw. cuma malas aja jg, soalnya agak susah dicerna kalo Dhamma dalam bentuk bahasa english

[dhammadinna]

Referensi untuk Marananussati:

http://ratnakumara.wordpress.com/buddha/samadhi/latihan-memurnikan-pikiran/anussati-bhavana-bagian-ii/

[Mas Tidar]

sssssttt rahasia ya... ada bocoran nih.

Visuddhimagga memang sudah masuk dalam agenda DC press tapi mungkin diperkirakan selesai tahun 2012 kalau tidak kiamat.

apakah  pernyataan ini masi berlaku ?
atau saya yg ketinggalan berita, mohon dicerahkan




anumodana _/|\_

[No Pain No Gain]

[No Pain No Gain]

numpang nanya, apakah ada refrensi untuk melatih 10 kasina? instruksinya yang lengkap...dr mulai persiapan sampai cara/teknik untuk melatihnya?

[Mas Tidar]

ini adalah salah satu melatih kasina.
dari pengalaman yang pernah dilihat secara langsung hanya ada 1 bhikkhu dari sekian ratus yang melakukan sperti hal diatas yang lain duduk meditasi.

dr yang pernah didengar dari dhamma talk Pa Auk Sayadaw, kemungkinan berhasil dalam latihan sperti itu kecil. karena konsentrasi belum terlatih.
kalaupun latihan sperti itu membawa hasil dan manfaat sperti yang dituju maka itu karena parami dari masa lampau yang baik.

[No Pain No Gain]

ini adalah salah satu melatih kasina.
dari pengalaman yang pernah dilihat secara langsung hanya ada 1 bhikkhu dari sekian ratus yang melakukan sperti hal diatas yang lain duduk meditasi.

dr yang pernah didengar dari dhamma talk Pa Auk Sayadaw, kemungkinan berhasil dalam latihan sperti itu kecil. karena konsentrasi belum terlatih.
kalaupun latihan sperti itu membawa hasil dan manfaat sperti yang dituju maka itu karena parami dari masa lampau yang baik.

oh...jadi mestinya bgmn dl? mas tidar punya referensi yang bagus gak?

[Mas Tidar]

numpang nanya, apakah ada refrensi untuk melatih 10 kasina? instruksinya yang lengkap...dr mulai persiapan sampai cara/teknik untuk melatihnya?

Spoiler: ShowHide

ref: http://visuddha-m-c.com/vmc%20sg/books%20doc/Visuddha%20Medtation%20Centre%20Books/paaukchart.pdf

[DragonHung]

Saya pernah melatih 4 kasina (api, air, tanah dan angin) . . . . . . . . .  cuman nanti kalau sharing di sini bakalan dibantai lagi kayaknya.

[No Pain No Gain]

Saya pernah melatih 4 kasina (api, air, tanah dan angin) . . . . . . . . .  cuman nanti kalau sharing di sini bakalan dibantai lagi kayaknya.

sharing aja bro dragonhung...saya bener2 pgn tau..