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Re: Adakah aliran Theravada + Mahayana = TheraMahavadayana?
« Reply #135 on: 29 November 2010, 07:08:08 AM »
Salah satu Faktor pencerahan dari 7 faktor pencerahan (bhojjanga) adalah Penyelidikan Dhamma. Jadi sebenarnya ke-kritis-an di dalam mempelajari berbagai ajaran adalah penting. Pemeo JUST DO IT tanpa mengetahui dan menyelidiki sesuatu menurut saya adalah agak beresiko.

gini-gini gw suka selidiki semua aliran Buddhis.

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Analogi-nya berbagai usahawan sukses yang berasal dari individu yang tingkat pendidikan formal rendah apakah menjustifikasi bahwa pendidikan itu tidak penting, TOH ada yang tidak mengecap pendidikan formal juga ada yang sukses. Tetapi survey dan penelitian tetap menghasilkan output bahwa tingkat pendidikan itu berbanding lurus dengan tingkat keberhasilan dan kesejahteraan.

Ariya sacca/ 4 kebenaran mulia + Jalan Mulia Beruas 8 / Sila Prajna Samadhi + Paticca samuppada adalah pendidikan formal-nya, he..he..he..

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Jadi seharusnya penyelidikan dhamma harus di-kedepan-kan dan termasuk di dalam PRAKTEK AJARAN BUDDHA, bukan hanya sekedar pemeo JUST DO IT.

penyelidikan dhamma SUDAH cukup, kalau mau nyelidiki terus malah bikin pusing karena masing-masing aliran saling klaim alirannya paling benar
praktek menolong orang menderita yang BELUM cukup, he.he.he..
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it means if gods (of any religions) try to play 'GOD' on me, i will 'HUMAN-ize' them :))

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Re: Adakah aliran Theravada + Mahayana = TheraMahavadayana?
« Reply #136 on: 29 November 2010, 07:15:36 AM »
Kalau Mahayana + Theravada ditambah lagi Tantrayana jadinya MahaTheTrayana,  :))  :))  :))

Just a joke, no offense lah.
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Just a joke too, gmn kalo The MaSuk ChanTra (Theravada Mahayana Sukhavati Chan Tantrayana), :) :)
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Re: Adakah aliran Theravada + Mahayana = TheraMahavadayana?
« Reply #137 on: 29 November 2010, 09:11:50 PM »
Hmmm, penyelidikan Dhamma (Dhammavicaya) mungkin bukan penyelidikan atas ajaran Sang Buddha (investigation of Truth, seperti yang diterjemahkan para cendikiawan Buddhis di Barat). Dhamma di sini mungkin lebih condong pada "dhamma" sebagai fenomena fisik ataupun mental (nama rupa). Jadi mungkin lebih tepatnya, penyelidikan atas fenomena fisik dan mental (investigation of phenomena), seperti yang dilakukan dalam meditasi Vipassana.

Dalam Buddhist Dictionary: Manual of Buddhist Terms and Doctrines oleh Ven. Nyanatiloka dikatakan:

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bojjhanga

'the 7 factors of enlightenment', are:

    * mindfulness (sati-sambojjhanga; s. sati),
    * investigation of the law (dhamma-vicaya-sambojjhanga),
    * energy (viriya-sambojjhanga; s. viriya, padhāna),
    * rapture (pīti-sambojjhanga, q.v.)
    * tranquility (passaddhi-sambojjhanga, q.v.),
    * concentration (samādhi-sambojjhanga, q.v.),
    * equanimity (upekkhā).

"Because they lead to enlightenment, therefore they are called factors of enlightenment" (S. XLVI, 5).

Though in the 2nd factor, dhamma-vicaya, the word dhamma is taken by most translators to stand for the Buddhist doctrine, it probably refers to the bodily and mental phenomena (nāma-rūpa-dhammā) as presented to the investigating mind by mindfulness, the 1st factor. With that interpretation, the term may be rendered by 'investigation of phenomena'.

In A.X.102, the 7 factors are said to be the means of attaining the threefold wisdom (s. tevijjā).

They may be attained by means of the 4 foundations of mindfulness (satipatthāna), as it is said in S.XLVI.1 and explained in M.118:

    * (1) "Whenever, o monks, the monk dwells contemplating the body (kāya), feeling (vedanā), mind (citta) and mind-objects (dhammā), strenuous, clearly-conscious, mindful, after subduing worldly greed and grief, at such a time his mindfulness is present and undisturbed; and whenever his mindfulness is present and undisturbed, at such a time he has gained and is developing the factor of enlightenment 'mindfulness' (sati-sambojjhanga), and thus this factor of enlightenment reaches fullest perfection.
    * (2) "Whenever, while dwelling with mindfulness, he wisely investigates, examines and thinks over the law ... at such a time he has gained and is developing the factor of enlightenment 'investigation of the law' (dhamma-vicaya°) ....
    * (3) "Whenever, while wisely investigating his energy is firm and unshaken ... at such a time he has gained and is developing the factor of enlightenment 'energy' (viriya°) ....
    * (4) "Whenever in him, while firm in energy, arises super sensuous rapture ... at such a time he has gained and is developing the factor of enlightenment 'rapture' (pīti°) ..
    * (5) "Whenever, while enraptured in mind, his body and his mind become composed ... at such a time he has gained and is developing the factor of enlightenment 'tranquillity' (passaddhi°).
    * (6) "Whenever, while being composed in his body and happy, his mind becomes concentrated ... at such a time he has gained and is developing the factor of enlightenment 'concentration' (samādhi°)
    * (7) "Whenever he looks with complete indifference on his mind thus concentrated ... at such a time he has gained and is developing the factor of enlightenment 'equanimity' (upekkhā).
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Re: Adakah aliran Theravada + Mahayana = TheraMahavadayana?
« Reply #138 on: 29 November 2010, 11:18:27 PM »
Mau nanya adakah temen-temen Buddhis yang menganut aliran TheraMahavadayana?
saya pribadi penganut theravada tetapi ada juga ajaran Mahayana yang menurut saya bermanfaat jadi diamalkan juga seperti nianfo (melafalkan nama Buddha) dan amitabha sutra. apakah saya termasuk aliran baru ini?  ;D  _/\_
Tepatnya lebih mirip sama...Elsolyana

bedanya mantra yg dibaca itu..

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