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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #15 on: 27 March 2013, 05:23:04 PM »
Telah saya upload melalui Google Drive, berikut link-nya:

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Wah sangat bermanfaat sekali ini, karena bisa gratis.
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #16 on: 27 March 2013, 06:11:51 PM »
Wah sangat bermanfaat sekali ini, karena bisa gratis.
Kalo boleh tanya untuk bro ariyakumara menulis di e-book itu bagaimana? terus terang aja saya gaptek. makasih ya  ;D

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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #17 on: 30 May 2013, 08:20:49 AM »
versi DCPress sudah diupload yah, PDF dan ePub

http://dhammacitta.org/perpustakaan/asoka/
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #18 on: 30 May 2013, 08:51:45 AM »
versi DCPress sudah diupload yah, PDF dan ePub

http://dhammacitta.org/perpustakaan/asoka/

meluncur ke tkp.. pdf pdf..  =P~

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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #19 on: 30 May 2013, 10:19:28 AM »
E-book ini dapat di-download di http://dhammacitta.org/perpustakaan/asoka/  (PDF dan ePub)


Terima kasih, Tuhan Medho, akhirnya masuk perpustakaan DC....  ^:)^
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #20 on: 03 June 2013, 08:42:02 AM »
updated, fixed footnote on chapter 8
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #21 on: 03 June 2013, 08:56:37 AM »
updated, fixed footnote on chapter 8

Mau kasi +1, tapi "Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 720 hours." ;D
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #22 on: 03 June 2013, 03:14:06 PM »
yang nulis om ariyakumara member dc atau ariyakumara yang lain? ;D
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #23 on: 03 June 2013, 03:56:37 PM »
yang nulis om ariyakumara member dc atau ariyakumara yang lain? ;D

Memang ada Ariyakumara yang lain?  :-?
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« Reply #24 on: 03 June 2013, 08:29:54 PM »
Memang ada Ariyakumara yang lain?  :-?
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luar biasa om, salutttt. :jempol:
jadi aryakumara nama aslinya yah om?
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #25 on: 03 June 2013, 10:09:14 PM »
^:)^
luar biasa om, salutttt. :jempol:
jadi aryakumara nama aslinya yah om?

Bukan nama asli, tapi nick gw dari forum sebelah.... ;D
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #26 on: 14 June 2013, 01:12:54 PM »
Pertama-tama, thanks to DC dan Ariyakumara..

Waktu baca buku ini, saya jadi pengen posting ini.

Beberapa saat yang lalu di NatGeo ada tayangan yang berjudul Bones of the Buddha. Dikisahkan bahwa pada tahun 1898, sekelompok pekerja menemukan sebuah peninggalan yang berisi benda-benda berharga. Di antara barang-barang berharga itu, ada sesuatu yang tidak tampak istimewa tapi sebenarnya jauh lebih berharga. Apakah benda itu?  :-?

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In 1898 Colonial estate manager Willie Peppe's workers, digging at a mysterious hill in Northern India, found what seemed to be the most extraordinary discovery in Indian archaeology. 20 feet down they unearthed a huge stone coffer containing 5 ancient soapstone jars, over 1600 separate jewels and some bones. And one jar had an inscription that appeared to say they were the remains of the Buddha himself buried by his own 'clan', the Sakyas.

Sadly, the involvement of Dr Anton Führer, a shadowy German archaeologist subsequently exposed as a fake and a fraud, has cast doubt and scandal over this amazing find.  For over 100 years it has been ignored and avoided.

In a new film, The Bones of the Buddha, renowned historian Charles Allen sets out to solve the mystery once and for all.

Allen was initially drawn to the project through his interest in the ‘orientalists’ of the British period in India, the men who rediscovered India’s history through things like coins, inscriptions and finding old manuscripts.

“They've always been my heroes in a lot of ways,” he says . “Guys like William Smith, the father of Indian studies, and in particular, James Principe, the guy who sits down and actually beaks the code of this strange and mysterious language.”

That language is Brahmi, devised by Emperor Ashoka, and India’s first written language.  It is also the language found inscribed on a vase found at the Piprahwa excavation, the authenticity of which is the key to solving the mystery. The inscription dates the vase to the time of Emperor Ashoka and confirms Allen’s theory that the Sakya clan’s portion of the original remains of the Buddha were dug up by Ashoka, divided even further and then reburied with jewels.

The key to the program was convincing one of the world’s leading epigraphists, Professor Harry Falk, to travel to India to study the inscription and validate it’s authenticity. Professor Falk had largely ignored the Pripahwa discovery because of the controversy but was genuinely excited by what he found.

“And as you’ll see in the film, he has no doubts about it," says Allen. "He says that it is quite patently genuine and he explains why. There’s a word used for remains, that has not been used anywhere else.”

Professor Falk was also able to confirm that the coffer was also from the Ashokan period.

“He measured it, examined it and confirmed it as an Ashokan artifact,” explains Allen. It conformed to Ashokan yard, the measurement introduced by Emperor Ashoka, and displayed exceptionally high quality craftsmanship.”

“More excitingly, Professor Falk discovered little black spots in this pink sandstone that confirmed it came from the same quarry as the Lumbini column, erected by Ashoka, came from.”

The Indian authorities, however, seem less convinced, leaving these important relics neglected. The vase with the inscription is kept in a metal cabinet in the back of a dusty office. The giant stone coffer sits in a courtyard in the museum in Calcutta, mislabelled and left out in the elements.

“The help we got from the Archaeological Survey in India and the museum was minimal.’ Says Allen. “They were just very, very unwilling to help. It took six weeks of negotiation to get them to open up and show the vase with the inscriptions.”

His request to see the jewels that were discovered with the remains was met with a curt refusal.

I asked Allen why he felt there was such apathy towards such a potentially monumental find and he readily admits that it is the involvement of Dr Führer tainted them, despite the fact that he has  “a whole series of letters “ that indicate that say Führer never visited the site until six weeks after the excavation.

It doesn't help, either, that one of the world’s experts on Buddhist relics, Dr Michael Willis from the British Museum, is not convinced of the find’s authenticity. Allen says that he asked Dr Willis to take part in the program but he refused because it was “too hot to handle.”

Allen says that Doctor Willis is yet to be convinced that the inscription is genuine.

“It’s maddening,’ explains Allen.  “It’s not just Professor Harry Falk who has said it was genuine, but the other great Sanskritist of our era, Professor Richard Salomon of the University of Seattle has also said that there is no question that it is anything part genuine.”

After decades of research, Allen hopes that this film will finally lay the myth to rest and finally remove the stain of impropriety from this important excavation.

“It’s just thrilling to be able to bring this story to a conclusion after ten years,’ he says. ‘And thrilling that to have a great, world leading authority like Professor Harry Falk say that it’s genuine.”

http://www.wanderlust.co.uk/magazine/articles/interviews/charles-allen-bones-of-the-buddha
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #27 on: 14 June 2013, 02:14:20 PM »
Dari wiki:

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Piprahwa Stupa: resting place of the Buddha

Piprahwa is particularly known for its large Buddhist Stupa which is argued to be one of the eight resting places of the Buddha's ashes.[3][4]

This Stupa was discovered by W.C. Peppe, a British colonial landowner of an estate at Piprahwa.[5][6][7]

In 1897, W.C. Peppe led a team of men to unearth a large mound on his land. Having cleared away scrub and jungle they set to work building a deep trench through the mound. Eventually they came to a large stone coffer which, on opening, contained several small vases containing ashes and jewels.[8]

On one of the vases was an inscription which was translated at the time to mean "This relic deposit of the Lord Buddha is the share of this renowned Sakya brethren, his own sister’s children and his own son;" meaning that this reliquary contained the ashes of the Buddha, a member of the Sakays.[9] A momentous historical find for Buddhists all over the world.

However, over the years there has been much debate about the authenticity of the Piprahwa find, and in particular, an inscription on a reliquary vase found at the Piprahwa Stupa.

Some non academic critics argue that the Piprahwa find was probably a forgery by a Dr Fuhrer, an archaeologist in Northern India at the time of the excavation and working some twenty miles away from Piprahwa, and who became notorious for forging Buddhist relics.[10]

Others, including descendants of W.C. Peppe and several academic experts dispute this theory of forgery, citing a range of evidence including historical records, personal documents, drawings, and archaeological and linguistic evidence.[11]

In 2006 a conference was held in England at Harewood House, Yorkshire, to discuss the authenticity of the Piprahwa Stupa and its inscription. Several world-renowned experts in Indology, Indian philology, and Sanskrit attending the conference concluded that the Piprahwa Stupa and its contents, including the inscription and reference to the Buddha's ashes, are authentic.[12]

More recently, academic expert opinion obtained for a National Geographic documentary on the Piprahwa Stupa entitled "Bones of the Buddha" (May, 2013) suggests - with a high degree of certainty - that Dr Fuhrer could not have been involved in forging the Piprahwa reliquary inscription. This is because Dr Fuhrer lacked the complete knowledge of the language used to write the inscription, and more importantly, would never have known a particular word written on the reliquary.

Experts on ancient Indian languages and history within the documentary "Bones of the Buddha" are now of the opinion that the reliquary found at Piprahwa did contain a portion of the ashes of the Buddha because the inscription is deemed authentic and could not have been forged, and the inscription does translate as 'this vase contains the Buddha's ashes'.

The general consensus in the documentrary "Bones of the Buddha" is that the Piprahwa Stupa was built by the Emperor Ashoka a couple of hundred years later over the original and more simple interment site of one eighth of the Buddha's ashes. Experts within the documentary point to the close similarity of materials used at Piprahwa and its grand size with other Ashokan Stupas, and that the coffer containing the reliquary found at Piprahwa also reflects Ashokan workmanship, design, and the type of stone used for monuments like the Lumbini pillar erected during his reign.

The original interment site of the Buddha's ashes at Piprahwa was discovered by the Indian archaeologist S.M. Srivastava in the 1970s several feet deeper than the coffer containing the relics that W.C. Peppe had excavated.[13] This find was dated to the period in which Buddha lived.[14]

Mr Srivastava's excavation also discovered some archaeological evidence that Piprahwa was within Kapilvastu - the homeland of the Buddha. However, the location of Kapilvastu remains hotly debated, with competing claims that Kaplivastu is at Tilaurakot in Nepal.

Recent evidence concerning the authenticity of the Piprahwa reliquary once more raises questions about the exact whereabouts of Kapilvastu, tilting the evidence towards it being located in India.

Relics and archaeological artifacts from the Piprahwa Stupa are to be found in the Calcutta and New Delhi Museums, the Golden Mount Temple in Bangkok, in Burma, the Dipaduttamrama Temple (also known as the Jewel Stupa) in Colombo, Sri Lanka, and the Anuradhapura Temple, Kandy, Sri Lanka. A small portion of the relics were given by the Indian Government for W.C. Peppe to retain, and these are still owned by descendants of the Peppe family in England.[15]

Today, the relics from the original and the 1970s excavations of the Piprahwa Stupa are revered by many Buddhists the world over.[16]

In 1978 ten million people paid homage to the relics from Piprahwa when they travelled to Sri Lanka, and in August 2012 the Indian government once more allowed the relics to be lent to Sri Lanka.[17]

In June 2013, the grandson of W.C. Peppe appeared on the British television programme [http://www.channel4.com/programmes/four-rooms/4od#3526988 ], hoping to sell the jewels found at the site. However, the provenance of the jewels at the time of making the programme (January 2013) was yet to be conclusively established, and the four dealers on the programme felt that if he was able to obtain this they would be of immense historic value.

Since the making of the programme Four Rooms in January 2013, the grandson of W.C. Peppe has sought official written provenance from world leading experts in Indian history and languages who vouch for the authenticity of the Piprahwa find.[18] One of those experts appeared on the National Geographic programme "Bones of the Buddha" stating that the inscription on the reliquary urn found at Piprahwa is authentic.

Lebih lanjut ada tulisan tentang pemalsuan relik ini di The Piprahwa Deceptions: Set-ups and Showdown

Masih kontroversial sepertinya karena situs Kapilavastu yang diyakini saat ini adalah yang di Nepal
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #28 on: 14 June 2013, 03:53:01 PM »
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bingung..  /:)

saya sih kemaren mikirnya sederhana aja, mungkin relik itu yang dulu diletakkan Raja Asoka di salah satu vihara yang dibangunnya.. Karena minim pengetahuan tentang sejarah, jadi saya tidak terlalu memikirkan asli atau palsunya (asumsinya, asli).. Tapi thanks atas info tambahannya..
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Re: Riwayat Hidup Raja Asoka
« Reply #29 on: 14 June 2013, 03:53:13 PM »
kebetulan pernah datang ke pameran relik piprahwa di sebuah museum. terlepas dari asli tidaknya, saya merasakan ada pancaran energi berasal dari relik ini. perasaan ini gak ada saat melihat relik2 lain yang juga diklaim berasal dari Buddha dan murid2nya. ini hanya pengamatan subjektif yang tidak ilmiah...
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