Asal Mula Aliran Mahasangika Menurut Teks Sarvastivada

[adi lim]

Mungkin tidak semua umat Buddha lemah dalam kecerdasan emosi (EQ), dimana kurang bisa membedakan mana hal yang bersifat amoral (tidak berbudi pekerti) dan mana yang bersifat berbudi pekerti.

Ajaran Buddha yang paling dasar adalah menyangkut moralitas (sila), bila ini tidak dipraktekkan dan disadari dengan baik, maka jalan berikutnya akan sulit (boleh dibuktikan sendiri).

Salam.

jadi ke jurusan ilmu budi pekerti
wkwkwkwkwkwkw .......... (tanpa gigi)

[Sunya]

cencored

Hm, kenapa kata-katanya diedit moderator? 

[Indra]

Hm, kenapa kata-katanya diedit moderator? 

biasanya karena ada orang yg keberatan lalu report ke moderator, dan kemudian pura2 mempertanyakan untuk menciptakan alibi

[Sunya]

biasanya karena ada orang yg keberatan lalu report ke moderator, dan kemudian pura2 mempertanyakan untuk menciptakan alibi

Oh, begitu. Terima kasih untuk informasinya.

Salam bahagia untuk Anda. 

[adi lim]

biasanya karena ada orang yg keberatan lalu report ke moderator, dan kemudian pura2 mempertanyakan untuk menciptakan alibi

udah biasa terlatih peran begituan atau sedang latihan jadi artis film !

[sanjiva]

biasanya karena ada orang yg keberatan lalu report ke moderator, dan kemudian pura2 mempertanyakan untuk menciptakan alibi

 

[Sunya]

Hm, kenapa kata-katanya diedit moderator? 

Padahal saya pribadi tidak keberatan walau pernyataan tersebut dinilai merendahkan bagi manusia awam. 

[seniya]

biasanya karena ada orang yg keberatan lalu report ke moderator, dan kemudian pura2 mempertanyakan untuk menciptakan alibi

Ampun Batara Indra, bukan gw pelakunya.... 

[Indra]

Padahal saya pribadi tidak keberatan walau pernyataan tersebut dinilai merendahkan bagi manusia awam. 

sebagai seorang yg sudah mengalami kesunyataan, tentunya anda bukan manusia awam lagi, bukan?

[Sunya]

sebagai seorang yg sudah mengalami kesunyataan, tentunya anda bukan manusia awam lagi, bukan?

OOT. Pernyataan utama tidak ditanggapi, yang dibahas malah isu sekunder. 

[adi lim]

sebagai seorang yg sudah mengalami kesunyataan, tentunya anda bukan manusia awam lagi, bukan?

bold.

biru, ada contoh ndak ?

[adi lim]

OOT. Pernyataan utama tidak ditanggapi, yang dibahas malah isu sekunder. 

sudah tersier

[Top1]

bro Seniya,

Pertama2 Sangha pecah menjadi Mahāsāṃghika dan Sthaviravāda.

Sementara Sarvastivada adalah bagian dari Sthaviravāda

Supaya adil bagaimana jika diberikan Studi Sutra menurut Teks Mahāsāṃghika ?

Most sources place the origin of the Mahāsāṃghikas to the Second Buddhist council. Traditions regarding the Second Council are confusing and ambiguous, but it is agreed that the overall result was the first schism in the Saṃgha, between the Sthaviras and the Mahāsāṃghikas, although it is not agreed upon by all what the cause of this split was.[6] Andrew Skilton has suggested that the problems of contradictory accounts are solved by the Mahāsāṃghika Śariputraparipṛcchā, which is the earliest surviving account of the schism.[7] In this account, the council was convened at Pāṭaliputra over matters of vinaya, and it is explained that the schism resulted from the majority (Mahāsaṃgha) refusing to accept the addition of rules to the Vinaya by the minority (Sthaviras).[7] The Mahāsāṃghikas therefore saw the Sthaviras as being a breakaway group which was attempting to modify the original Vinaya.[8]
Scholars have generally agreed that the matter of dispute was indeed a matter of vinaya, and have noted that the account of the Mahāsāṃghikas is bolstered by the vinaya texts themselves, as vinayas associated with the Sthaviras do contain more rules than those of the Mahāsāṃghika Vinaya.[7] Modern scholarship therefore generally agrees that the Mahāsāṃghika Vinaya is the oldest.[7] According to Skilton, future scholars may determine that a study of the Mahāsāṃghika school will contribute to a better understanding of the early Dharma-Vinaya than the Theravāda school.[8]

According to some sources, abhidharma was not accepted as canonical by the Mahāsāṃghika school.[27] The Theravādin Dīpavaṃsa, for example, records that the Mahāsāṃghikas had no abhidharma.[28] However, other sources indicate that there were such collections of abhidharma. During the early 5th century, the Chinese pilgrim Faxian is said to have found a Mahāsāṃghika abhidharma at a monastery in Pāṭaliputra.[29] When Xuanzang visited Dhānyakaṭaka, he wrote that the monks of this region were Mahāsāṃghikas, and mentions the Pūrvaśailas specifically.[30] Near Dhānyakaṭaka, he met two Mahāsāṃghika bhikṣus and studied Mahāsāṃghika abhidharma with them for several months, during which time they also studied various Mahāyāna śāstras together under Xuanzang's direction.[31][32] On the basis of textual evidence as well as inscriptions at Nāgārjunakoṇḍā, Joseph Walser concludes that at least some Mahāsāṃghika sects probably had an abhidharma collection, and that it likely contained five or six books

[Top1]

Buat bro Seniya,

Saya punya buku dalam pdf yang menyatakan asal usul Mahasamghika.
Dibahas cukup lengkap termasuk yang dari pandangan Sarvastivada

Link : http://lirs.ru/lib/Mahasamghika_Origins.Prebish.pdf

Mungkin ini bisa dibuat topik lain.

[seniya]

 [at] top1:
Baca juga buku sects and sectarianism ttg asal usul aliran2 Buddhisme awal. Udah di terjemahkan di DC jg, silahkan liat thread saya di DC Press....

Btw asal-usul Mahasanghika menurut teks Mahasanghika sendiri yg berjudul Sariputrapariprccha jg sudah dibahas pada thread ini berdasarkan buku tsb. Silahkan buka hal2 sebelumnya....