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Buddhisme Awal, Sekte dan Tradisi => Theravada => Topic started by: morpheus on 16 January 2009, 02:13:24 PM

Title: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: morpheus on 16 January 2009, 02:13:24 PM
bagi yg kemaren kurang sreg dengan cetak / salin buku:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an02/an02.031.than.html

"Monks, I will teach you the level of a person of no integrity and the level of a person of integrity. Listen & pay close attention. I will speak."

"As you say, lord," the monks responded.

The Blessed One said: "Now what is the level of a person of no integrity? A person of no integrity is ungrateful, doesn't acknowledge the help given to him. This ingratitude, this lack of acknowledgment is second nature among rude people. It is entirely on the level of a person of no integrity.

"A person of integrity is grateful & acknowledges the help given to him. This gratitude, this acknowledgment is second nature among fine people. It is entirely on the level of a person of integrity.

{II,iv,2} "I tell you, monks, there are two people who are not easy to repay. Which two? Your mother & father. Even if you were to carry your mother on one shoulder & your father on the other shoulder for 100 years, and were to look after them by anointing, massaging, bathing, & rubbing their limbs, and they were to defecate & urinate right there [on your shoulders], you would not in that way pay or repay your parents. If you were to establish your mother & father in absolute sovereignty over this great earth, abounding in the seven treasures, you would not in that way pay or repay your parents. Why is that? Mother & father do much for their children. They care for them, they nourish them, they introduce them to this world. But anyone who rouses his unbelieving mother & father, settles & establishes them in conviction; rouses his unvirtuous mother & father, settles & establishes them in virtue; rouses his stingy mother & father, settles & establishes them in generosity; rouses his foolish mother & father, settles & establishes them in discernment: To this extent one pays & repays one's mother & father."
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: Edward on 16 January 2009, 02:22:36 PM
nice post...
pantes, lebih "in" yg versi bajakan....
soalnya, walaupun inti yg ingin disampaikan sama, versi bajakannya udh ditambah bumbu2 penyedap....
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: naviscope on 16 January 2009, 02:29:47 PM
versi bajakan?
berarti maksudnya yg maha punya bajakan....

berarti yg thera asli donk....

jd pusink nech, apa aye salah jurusan kale ye.... wakakakaka........
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: Edward on 16 January 2009, 02:41:33 PM
justru klo versi asli mahayana isinya hampir persis sama yg versi thera...
tp yg beredar luas di pasaran justru versi bajakan dari kedua-nya....
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: Huiono on 16 January 2009, 03:41:55 PM
Singkat padat dan jelas...

Benar sekali.. versi bajakan lebih bikin terharu...
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: tesla on 16 January 2009, 03:51:27 PM
justru klo versi asli mahayana isinya hampir persis sama yg versi thera...
tp yg beredar luas di pasaran justru versi bajakan dari kedua-nya....

lho? yg di mahayana ada 2 versi ya?
yg di post oleh elsol itu versi yg mana?
bukankah tercantum di kitab taisho?
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: cunda on 16 January 2009, 04:51:57 PM
namaste suvatthi hotu

sekedar tambahan informasi aku kutipkan:

Aṅguttaranikāyo; Dukanipātapāḷi; 1. Paṭhamapaṇṇāsakaṃ; 4. Samacittavaggo 34

‘Dvinnāhaṃ, bhikkhave, na suppatikāraṃ vadāmi.
Katamesaṃ dvinnaṃ? Mātu ca pitu ca.

Kunyatakan, o para bhikkhu, ada (budi) dua orang yang tidak pernah digantikan.
Siapakah dua orang itu? Ibu dan Ayah.

Ekena, bhikkhave, aṃsena mātaraṃ parihareyya, ekena aṃsena pitaraṃ parihareyya vassasatāyuko vassasatajīvī so ca nesaṃ ucchādana-parimaddana-nhā-panasambāhanena. Te ca tattheva muttakarīsaṃ cajeyyuṃ.


O Para Bhikkhu, Orang yang berumur seratus tahun dapat memikul ibunya dengan satu bahunya dan memikul ayahnya dengan bahu yang lain sepanjang kehidupannya selama seratus tahun, dengan meminyaki, memijat, memandikan, menggosok kaki tangan, Di sana mereka juga membersihkan kencing dan kotoran..............dan seterusnya


semoga bermanfaat

thuti
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: Edward on 16 January 2009, 08:55:28 PM
justru klo versi asli mahayana isinya hampir persis sama yg versi thera...
tp yg beredar luas di pasaran justru versi bajakan dari kedua-nya....

lho? yg di mahayana ada 2 versi ya?
yg di post oleh elsol itu versi yg mana?
bukankah tercantum di kitab taisho?
Sesuai dengan pernyataan Bro Chingik,yang dikutip El Sol, itu versi modifikasi dari Taisho... ;D
Dan ironisnya, versi modifikasi tersebut lebih menyebar luas....
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: tesla on 16 January 2009, 10:03:32 PM
yg versi di Taisho, sebenarnya isinya gimana?
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: ryu on 16 January 2009, 10:42:53 PM
mara ???
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: Mara on 16 January 2009, 10:49:54 PM
mara ???
salam super mas Ryu!
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: N1AR on 17 January 2009, 02:44:51 PM
maksudnya ini bukan ajaran sang Buddha ??
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: chingik on 17 January 2009, 09:20:52 PM
yg versi di Taisho, sebenarnya isinya gimana?
Versi Taisho isinya seperti ini lho:
http://dhammacitta.org/forum/index.php?topic=8304.30
Title: Re: Sutra bakti anak versi Pali kanon / Theravada
Post by: tesla on 17 January 2009, 09:54:59 PM
yg versi di Taisho, sebenarnya isinya gimana?
Versi Taisho isinya seperti ini lho:
http://dhammacitta.org/forum/index.php?topic=8304.30

Anumodana

setuju dg bro edward, versi mahayana & theravada isinya lebih kurang sama.
sayangnya yg beredar malah versi lainnya...

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