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Re: alam dewa atau manusia
« Reply #15 on: 04 March 2008, 09:42:52 PM »
Sebentar, dari komentar Dhammapada....
Maknanya hidup itu sangat-sangat singkat.... sebelum hawa nafsu dipuaskan mereka sudah dikuasai kematian

Nah ini dia :

IV:4 The lady who was born In Tavatimsa heaven (Pati Pujika Kumari)

Pati Pujika Kumari was a lady from Savatthi. She married at the age of sixteen and had four sons. She was a virtuous and generous lady, who loved to make offerings of food and other requisites to the holy people. She would often go to the monastery and clean up the premises, fill the pots and jars with water and perform other services. Pati Pujika also possessed the knowledge through which she remembered that in her previous existence she was one of the wives of Malabhari, in the deva world of Tavatimsa.

She also remembered that she had passed away from there when all of them were out in the garden enjoying themselves, plucking flowers. So every time she made offerings to the bhikkhus or performed other meritorious acts, she would aspire that she might be reborn in the Tavatimsa realm as a wife of Malabhari, her previous husband.

One day Pati Pujika fell ill and passed away. As she had so ardently wished, she was reborn in Tavatimsa deva world again as a wife of Malabhari. As one hundred years in the human world is equivalent to just one day in Tavatimsa world, Malabhari and the other devas were still in the garden enjoying them-selves and Pati Pujika was barely missed by them. So, when she rejoined them, Malabhari asked her where she had been the whole morning. She then told about her passing away from there and finally her return to Tavatimsa.  The bhikkhus reported the death of Pati Pujika to the Buddha. He explained that the life of beings was very brief; and that before they could be satiated in their sensual desires, they would be overpowered by death.
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Re: alam dewa atau manusia
« Reply #16 on: 05 March 2008, 02:45:33 AM »
jadi mati muda itu kadang kala bukanlah hal yg menyedihkan... ^-^

kalo jato ke alam rendah..itu pasti menyedihkan biarpun bisa idup sampe umur 200 taon...

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Re: alam dewa atau manusia
« Reply #17 on: 05 March 2008, 07:59:45 AM »
dewi tersebut sudah mencapai tingkat kesucian sotapanna?

Tesla masih ingat topik puggala & bhumi?
Coba liat...kalo terlahir di alam surga.... harus ngapain?  ;D

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Re: alam dewa atau manusia
« Reply #18 on: 05 March 2008, 12:08:55 PM »
Jika mau ke alam surga =  banyak-banyak berbuat baik & meditasi  :)

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Re: alam dewa atau manusia
« Reply #19 on: 05 March 2008, 03:50:28 PM »
oh... siap di surga nanti ngapain??
Lepaskan keserakahan akan kesenangan. Lihatlah bahwa melepaskan dunia adalah kedamaian. Tidak ada sesuatu pun yang perlu kau raup, dan tidak ada satu pun yang perlu kau dorong pergi. ~ Buddha ~

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Re: alam dewa atau manusia
« Reply #20 on: 05 March 2008, 05:23:15 PM »
di surga nanti...kita bersenang-senang (kan surga itu menyenangkan)  :)) :)) :))

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Re: alam dewa atau manusia
« Reply #21 on: 05 March 2008, 05:50:44 PM »
di surga bagi yang pernah vipassana selagi menjadi manusia silahkan meneruskan vipassananya, siapa tahu jadi Sottapana. Jadi jangan hanya ingin senang2 saja ;D 
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Re: alam dewa atau manusia
« Reply #22 on: 06 March 2008, 02:30:44 PM »
quote asung :
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apakah seorg dewa blh memilih lahir d alam manusia dgn kondisi kaya, tampan dsb?

Sebentar, dari komentar Dhammapada....
Maknanya hidup itu sangat-sangat singkat.... sebelum hawa nafsu dipuaskan mereka sudah dikuasai kematian

Nah ini dia :

IV:4 The lady who was born In Tavatimsa heaven (Pati Pujika Kumari)

Pati Pujika Kumari was a lady from Savatthi. She married at the age of sixteen and had four sons. She was a virtuous and generous lady, who loved to make offerings of food and other requisites to the holy people. She would often go to the monastery and clean up the premises, fill the pots and jars with water and perform other services. Pati Pujika also possessed the knowledge through which she remembered that in her previous existence she was one of the wives of Malabhari, in the deva world of Tavatimsa.

She also remembered that she had passed away from there when all of them were out in the garden enjoying themselves, plucking flowers. So every time she made offerings to the bhikkhus or performed other meritorious acts, she would aspire that she might be reborn in the Tavatimsa realm as a wife of Malabhari, her previous husband.

One day Pati Pujika fell ill and passed away. As she had so ardently wished, she was reborn in Tavatimsa deva world again as a wife of Malabhari. As one hundred years in the human world is equivalent to just one day in Tavatimsa world, Malabhari and the other devas were still in the garden enjoying them-selves and Pati Pujika was barely missed by them. So, when she rejoined them, Malabhari asked her where she had been the whole morning. She then told about her passing away from there and finally her return to Tavatimsa.  The bhikkhus reported the death of Pati Pujika to the Buddha. He explained that the life of beings was very brief; and that before they could be satiated in their sensual desires, they would be overpowered by death.

Makna yang terkandung:

1.       Perbuatan baik yang menyebabkan seseorang terlahir di alam surga

2.       Kehidupan manusia demikian singkat, koq bukannya berbuat baik malah berbuat jahat pula

3.       Kehidupan di surga tidaklah kekal

4.       Mahluk surga bisa bertekad untuk lahir di alam manusia yang kaya, tampan dsb yaitu dengan membayar tekadnya melalui berbuat baik terhadap para manusia, jadi dewa yang baik dan tidak murka/marah sehingga terkondisikan tampan...; demikian pula mahluk manusia bisa bertekad lahir di surga dengan membayar juga melalui perbuatan baik (contoh di cerita tersebut perempuan tersebut yakin ada alam surga dan suaminya dewa dan bertekad sambil berbuat baik).

Asung mau masuk surga? Bisa ... dengan berbuat baik yang banyak plus latihan pikiran (sambil bertekad untuk terlahir di surga),
Asung juga ingin jadi dewa yang tampan tentunya ... bisa, dengan bayaran tidak banyak marah tapi murah senyum dan pemaaf ya... ;D

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~ Mak Kebo (film BABE) : The Only way you'll find happiness is to accept that the way things are. Is the way things are

 

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