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Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« on: 24 January 2008, 12:52:19 AM »
apakah ada yg tao tentang dia?

apakah dia anggota Sangha yg bisa dipercayai?

dari yg aku liat selama beberapa hari bersama2 umatnya...

sepertinya terlalu commercial...

dan...setelah belajar ajaran Vajra yg kudapat dari perbincangan Dhamma dengan murid2 dia...

makin denger makin aneh dan gk masuk akal...

contohne :

"mereka menanggap Boddhisatta itu adalah 1 level dengan seorang Sammasambuddha"..

mucullah pertanyaan..

bagaimana seorang yg belum bebas dari Lobha, dosa dan Moha dipanggil sammasambuddha/Buddha?

dan, kalo emank Boddhisatta adalah 1 level dengan Sammasambuddha, buat apa Buddha gotama terlahir sebagai seorang Sammasambuddha? kenapa beliau berhenti jadi Boddhisatva? kalo sama level khan seharusnye lebih bagus jadi Boddhisatta..karena masih bisa bantu2 semua makhluk menderita...apakah Buddha Gotama menjadi cape ato males dan akhirnya memilih untuk terlahir sebagai seorang Sammasambuddha?

makin aku berpikir..makin merasa kalo ajaran Vajra makin aneh dan gk jelas...

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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #1 on: 24 January 2008, 12:58:58 AM »

Tsem Tulku Rinpoche (Singa Rinpoche)

Bagi yg belum tahu case nya, silakan lihat link ini (dan dengarkan musiknya)  ;) :
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/singamusic128/
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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #2 on: 24 January 2008, 01:00:47 AM »
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"mereka menanggap Boddhisatta itu adalah 1 level dengan seorang Sammasambuddha"..

Maybe they were talking about Dzogchen,....something that I think you know nothing about. :P
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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #3 on: 24 January 2008, 01:05:52 AM »
Wrote by Hand15:

http://www.w****a.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-1321.html

Setelah kasus heboh rinpoche di Indonesia, datang lagi rinpoche lain yang bikin heboh di Taiwan dgn mengeluarkan Album CD rap, sampai sampai bikin blog di internet segala!!:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Tapi harus diakui rinpoche-nya ganteng sih... :oops: :) :) :) :)

Blog Singa Rinpoche 盛噶仁波切: http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/singamusic128/

Foto Singa sebagai rinpoche:


Foto sebagai artis:



A handsome but controversial young Tibetan lama has emerged on Taiwan's music scene by releasing his first CD-a collection of rap and hip-hop songs which he claims can help promote Buddhism.Singa Rinpoche, 30, who is barred from entering Taiwan due to his flamboyant behavior on a visit to the island last year, released the

CD - Wish You Well - on February 10 through Taiwan's Forward Music company.

Since then, several Taiwan TV channels have been airing the MTV spots promoting Singa's album - showing Singa recording songs in the studio, running in a forest and releasing a bird into freedom.

Wearing his trademark white shirt and blue pants, Singa, 179 centimetres tall and weighing 63 kilogrammes, shows a natural talent for performing by flashing smiles and making poses, showing off his youth and confidence.

Singa signed a contract with Forward Music in April 2006 and began recording at a Beijing studio in July 2006.

"We were surprised by the public response to this CD. It is selling extremely well. We have opened a blog for Singa Rinpoche and within a week, 100,000 people have browsed it," Forward Music press officer Cheng Chao-jen told Deutsche Presse-agentur dpa.

Most of the 12 songs on the CD were written and composed by a Taiwan musician and two were written and composed by Singa.

They are: Reincarnation, Wish You Well, Let Me Take Care of You, Fashion, It's the Light, Girl Quji Zhuoma, Starting to Realize, Leave Love to You, Today, Lama Chino.

In the songs, Singa mixes rap and hip-hop with chants of Buddhist sutras, and switches from Chinese to Tibetan and English.

The songs deal mostly with love, but he also preaches his philosophy. The song Leave Love to You has this rap line: "All the pain in this world is caused by seeking happiness for himself/All the joy in this world is caused by seeking happiness for others. "

Born in Qinghai Province, China, in 1970, Singa claims a rainbow appeared in the sky when he was born. At 16, a Tibetan monastery confirmed he was the reincarnation of a high lama.

Singa claimed he spent three years studying Buddhism in Nepal, Tibet and Thailand, before travelling around the world to spread Buddhism.

But when he visited Taiwan from February to April 2006 to promote his book, This is me, a living Buddha, he caused controversy because he acted more like a film star than a monk. He wore trendy clothes and received his disciples wearing a shirt and jeans, not the red cloak worn by Tibetan lamas.

Some Taiwan disciples alledged Singa had not finished Buddhist studies in India and had not been ordained, prompting the Interior Ministry to bar him from entering Taiwan for one year.

Cheng Chen-huang, a professor of Buddhism at the Fokuangshan University, believes Singa Rinpoche has violated Buddhist precepts, or moral codes.

"There are 250 precepts for a Chinese Buddhist and 253 precepts for a Tibetan Buddhist. For a Buddhist, these codes are very important and must be observed," Cheng told dpa.

Agga Wandha, a 59-year-old Burmese monk in Taipei, agreed.

"The essence of Buddhism is to quench desires in order to achieve inner peace. Singa Rinpoche's wearing fashionable clothes and driving fancy cars shows he is feeding these desires. He is really in a mess," he said.

But Singa Rinpoche's behavior is nothing new to Tibetan Buddhism. Three hundred years ago, the sixth Dalai Lama raisd eyebrows because he frequented Lhasa's red light district at night and wrote love poems.

A more recent example is Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche from the Himalayan Buddhist kingdom of Bhutan, who directed two films - The Cup in 1999 and Travellers & Magicians in 2005.

Dzongsar Khyentse received world acclaim for his films and continues to travel around the world to preach Buddhism. No one had criticized him for making films.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2007/02/15/2003349194
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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #4 on: 24 January 2008, 01:25:51 AM »
bukan Tsem Tulku yg ini....

yg kumaksud adalah yg ini..

hxxp://www.tsemtulku.com/V02/index.html

trus..yg singa itu..parah banget...tapi Tsem tulku yg gw maksud mirip2 juga kayak gitu...-_-" parahhhh!!``

udah deh...-_-" Buddhism emank dah mao ancur...
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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #5 on: 24 January 2008, 01:28:06 AM »
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"mereka menanggap Boddhisatta itu adalah 1 level dengan seorang Sammasambuddha"..

Maybe they were talking about Dzogchen,....something that I think you know nothing about. :P
entah apa itu Dzogchen...I dun know anything about Vajrayana...<--dikit2 tao lar..


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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #6 on: 24 January 2008, 01:33:53 AM »
wait a minute...-_-"

kok mirip...-_-"

jangan2...dia operasi plastik...dibagian mata? -_-"

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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #7 on: 24 January 2008, 01:36:27 AM »
bukan Tsem Tulku yg ini....

yg kumaksud adalah yg ini..

hxxp://www.tsemtulku.com/V02/index.html

trus..yg singa itu..parah banget...tapi Tsem tulku yg gw maksud mirip2 juga kayak gitu...-_-" parahhhh!!``

udah deh...-_-" Buddhism emank dah mao ancur...

Oh, sori salah.... ^-^

...tapi bisa dijadikan kasus juga tuh. ^-^ ^-^

Besok saya pelajari dulu. Met malem.
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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #8 on: 24 January 2008, 01:39:13 AM »
Anumodana dah mao bantuin pelajari dia...

gud nite..

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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #9 on: 24 January 2008, 09:31:42 AM »
Kalau di luar negri kontroversi tentang Tsem Tulku menyangkut tentang gurunya Tsem Tulku yang melakukan praktek dolgyal.
Banyak yang tidak menyetujui praktek dolgyal, termasuk HH. Dalai Lama.
Tetapi Tsem Tulku sendiri tidak pernah melakukan praktek dolgyal.
Selain itu ada kontroversi tentang beliau, karena beliau meminta ijin kepada gurunya untuk memakai pakaian umat awam, dan beliau juga bekerja pada waktu senggangnya sebagai designer.
Selama beliau masih mengajarkan 4 kebenaran mulia, saya masih akan menghormati beliau.
Untuk bos, sepertinya thread ini lebih cocok dipindahkan ke Tibetan ya?

Tsem Tulku mengajar murid-muridnya
diambil dari http://www.buddhistchannel.tv

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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #10 on: 24 January 2008, 10:30:02 AM »
wait a minute...-_-"

kok mirip...-_-"

jangan2...dia operasi plastik...dibagian mata? -_-"


emang mirip tuh.. ^-^

Btw, yang paling penting "Rinpoche" berbeda dari "Gelong" kan? :)
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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #11 on: 24 January 2008, 04:09:36 PM »
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dolgyal itu apa?

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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #12 on: 24 January 2008, 05:55:15 PM »
hi all.. kita mesti berhati2 dgn gelar rinpoche, karena setau saya seorang rinpoche itu blm tentu bhikku.

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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #13 on: 24 January 2008, 11:03:12 PM »
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jadi Rinpoche itu apa?  :o

baru tao aku...

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Re: Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
« Reply #14 on: 25 January 2008, 01:28:49 AM »
rinpoche itu seperti pandita ya ko sughatadasa? cerita rinpoche yang di indonesia itu kok dah gak ada kabarnya ya?

 

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