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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #30 on: 27 March 2008, 12:32:15 AM »
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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #31 on: 28 March 2008, 08:42:25 AM »
mending di danakan aja dach dr pd dibakar...

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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #32 on: 28 March 2008, 09:15:00 AM »
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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #33 on: 28 April 2008, 02:32:13 PM »
gw ketemu sutta yang mungkin ada hubungannya dengan api homa:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an10/an10.177.than.html
Janussonin Sutta
To Janussonin
(On Offerings to the Dead)
Translated from the Pali by
Thanissaro Bhikkhu

Then Janussonin the brahman went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, exchanged courteous greetings with him. After an exchange of friendly greetings & courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there, he said to the Blessed One, "Master Gotama, you know that we brahmans give gifts, make offerings, [saying,] 'May this gift accrue to our dead relatives. May our dead relatives partake of this gift.' Now, Master Gotama, does that gift accrue to our dead relatives? Do our dead relatives partake of that gift?"

"In possible places, brahman, it accrues to them, but not in impossible places."

"And which, Master Gotama, are the possible places? Which are the impossible places?"

"There is the case, brahman, where a certain person takes life, takes what is not given, engages in sensual misconduct, engages in false speech, engages in divisive speech, engages in abusive speech, engages in idle chatter, is covetous, bears ill will, and has wrong views. With the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in hell. He lives there, he remains there, by means of whatever is the food of hell-beings. This is an impossible place for that gift to accrue to one staying there.

"Then there is the case where a certain person takes life, takes what is not given, engages in sensual misconduct, engages in false speech, engages in divisive speech, engages in abusive speech, engages in idle chatter, is covetous, bears ill will, and has wrong views. With the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in the animal womb. He lives there, he remains there, by means of whatever is the food of common animals. This, too, is an impossible place for that gift to accrue to one staying there.

"Then there is the case where a certain person refrains from taking life, refrains from taking what is not given, refrains from sensual misconduct, refrains from false speech, refrains from divisive speech, refrains from abusive speech, refrains from idle chatter, is not covetous, bears no ill will, and has right views. With the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in the company of human beings. He lives there, he remains there, by means of whatever is the food of human beings. This, too, is an impossible place for that gift to accrue to one staying there.

"Then there is the case where a certain person refrains from taking life, refrains from taking what is not given, refrains from sensual misconduct, refrains from false speech, refrains from divisive speech, refrains from abusive speech, refrains from idle chatter, is not covetous, bears no ill will, and has right views. With the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in the company of the devas. He lives there, he remains there, by means of whatever is the food of devas. This, too, is an impossible place for that gift to accrue to one staying there.

"Then there is the case where a certain person takes life, takes what is not given, engages in sensual misconduct, engages in false speech, engages in divisive speech, engages in abusive speech, engages in idle chatter, is covetous, bears ill will, and has wrong views. With the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in the realms of the hungry shades. He lives there, he remains there, by means of whatever is the food of hungry shades. He lives there, he remains that, by means of whatever his friends or relatives give in dedication to him. This is the possible place for that gift to accrue to one staying there.

"But, Master Gotama, if that dead relative does not reappear in that possible place, who partakes of that gift?"

"Other dead relatives, brahman, who have reappeared in that possible place."

"But, Master Gotama, if that dead relative does not reappear in that possible place, and other dead relatives have not reappeared in that possible place, then who partakes of that gift?"

"It's impossible, brahman, it cannot be, that over this long time that possible place is devoid of one's dead relatives. 1 But at any rate, the donor does not go without reward.

"Does Master Gotama describe any preparation for the impossible places?"

"Brahman, I do describe a preparation for the impossible places. There is the case where a certain person takes life, takes what is not given, engages in sensual misconduct, engages in false speech, engages in divisive speech, engages in abusive speech, engages in idle chatter, is covetous, bears ill will, and has wrong views. But he gives food, drink, cloth, vehicles, garlands, scents, creams, bed, lodging, & lamps to priests & contemplatives. With the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in the company of elephants. There he receives food, drink, flowers, & various ornaments. It's because he took life, took what is not given, engaged in sensual misconduct, engaged in false speech, engaged in divisive speech, engaged in abusive speech, engaged in idle chatter, was covetous, bore ill will, and had wrong views that he reappears in the company of elephants. But it's because he gave food, drink, cloth, vehicles, garlands, scents, creams, bed, lodging, & lamps to priests & contemplatives that he receives food, drink, flowers, & various ornaments.

"Then there is the case where a certain person takes life... has wrong views. But he gives food... lamps to priests & contemplatives. With the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in the company of horses... in the company of cattle... in the company of poultry. There he receives food, drink, flowers, & various ornaments. 2 It's because he took life... and had wrong views that he reappears in the company of poultry. But it's because he gave food, drink... & lamps to priests & contemplatives that he receives food, drink, flowers, & various ornaments.

"Then there is the case where a certain person refrains from taking life, refrains from taking what is not given, refrains from sensual misconduct, refrains from false speech, refrains from divisive speech, refrains from abusive speech, refrains from idle chatter, is not covetous, bears no ill will, and has right views. And he gives food, drink, cloth, vehicles, garlands, scents, creams, bed, lodging, & lamps to priests & contemplatives. With the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in the company of human beings. There he experiences the five strings of human sensuality [delightful sights, sounds, smells, tastes, tactile sensations]. It's because he refrained from taking what is not given, refrained from sensual misconduct, refrained from false speech, refrained from divisive speech, refrained from abusive speech, refrained from idle chatter, was not covetous, bore no ill will, and had right views that he reappears in the company of human beings. And it's because he gave food, drink, cloth, vehicles, garlands, scents, creams, bed, lodging, & lamps to priests & contemplatives that he experiences the five strings of human sensuality. 3

"Then there is the case where a certain person refrains from taking life... and has right views. And he gives food, drink, cloth, vehicles, garlands, scents, creams, bed, lodging, & lamps to priests & contemplatives. With the break-up of the body, after death, he reappears in the company of devas. There he experiences the five strings of divine sensuality [delightful sights, sounds, smells, tastes, tactile sensations]. It's because he refrained from taking what is not given... and had right views that he reappears in the company of devas. And it's because he gave food, drink, cloth, vehicles, garlands, scents, creams, bed, lodging, & lamps to priests & contemplatives that he experiences the five strings of divine sensuality. But at any rate, brahman, the donor does not go without reward."

"It's amazing, Master Gotama, it's astounding, how it's enough to make one want to give a gift, enough to make one want to make an offering, where the donor does not go without reward."

"That's the way it is, brahman. That's the way it is. The donor does not go without reward."

"Magnificent, Master Gotama! Magnificent! Just as if he were to place upright what was overturned, to reveal what was hidden, to show the way to one who was lost, or to carry a lamp into the dark so that those with eyes could see forms, in the same way has Master Gotama — through many lines of reasoning — made the Dhamma clear. I go to Master Gotama for refuge, to the Dhamma, & to the community of monks. May Master Gotama remember me as a lay follower who has gone to him for refuge, from this day forward, for life."
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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #34 on: 15 May 2008, 09:01:09 PM »
Aduh..
Macem Cheng beng aja tuch pembakaran api Homa....ZzzZzzZzz
Tp Cheng Beng pun setahun sekali...
Api Homa brp x sekali???
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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #35 on: 16 May 2008, 08:02:22 AM »
nambah efek global warming setau gw dengan pembakaran yang melibatkan banyak polusi sehingga uhuk uhuk......
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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #36 on: 16 May 2008, 08:16:54 PM »
Ya..
Betul Buad nambah global warming aja pun..
Gw uda gk pernah tuch pasang2 dupa...
Menambah global warming aja...
Walaupun dengan namakasra aja,para dewa udah ngerti kok..
Gk usa pake acara2 bakar2an...
COz dewa lebih kaya,senang,drpd kita manusia...
Manusia dibanding ma dewa :
Manusia=org miskin
Dewa=org kaya..
Ngapaen lage bakar2 buad dewa???
Mending disumbangkan uang kita buad fakir miskin,pembangunan vihara,panti asuhan,dll...
Masih byk manusia yg miskin,dewa uda kaya gk usa lagi kalian kasih apa2...
Yg ptg kalian lakukan perbuatan baik banyak2 dan limpahkan kepada semua makhluk...
Sabbe Satta Bhavantu Sukkhitatta!!!
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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #37 on: 09 January 2009, 12:26:18 PM »
jadi api homa itu mirip2 pemuja api yah ?
bukankah di jaman Sang Buddha juga ada para pemuja api ?
temanku pernah ikut tuh
katanya boleh bakar permintaan yang ditulis disecarik kertas
gw sih anggap agak aneh
jadi kayak minta2 gitu
Hanya padaMu Buddha, Kubaktikan diriku selamanya
Hanya untukMu Buddha, Kupersembahkan hati dan jiwaku seutuhnya..

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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #38 on: 09 January 2009, 12:29:48 PM »
jadi api homa itu mirip2 pemuja api yah ?
bukankah di jaman Sang Buddha juga ada para pemuja api ?
temanku pernah ikut tuh
katanya boleh bakar permintaan yang ditulis disecarik kertas
gw sih anggap agak aneh
jadi kayak minta2 gitu



pantes yang menyelenggarakan api homa makin kaya, karena banyak yang ikutan seh
semoga aja gak ikutan ke neraka

amit-amit deh
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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #39 on: 09 January 2009, 12:32:41 PM »
Siapa pencetus ritual api homa itu?

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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #40 on: 09 January 2009, 12:59:45 PM »
at upasaka

kalo pencetus sih aku ga tau
apakah dari aliran tantra ?
bingung ah, ternyata Buddhis masih banyak pernak pernik yg ga jelas
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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #41 on: 09 January 2009, 04:08:31 PM »
Api homa hanya dalam tradisi tantraya...
Api homa ada 2
1. Api homa luar (upacara)
2. Api homa dalam (kundalini)

Api homa bertujuan untuk mengundang para Buddha dan Bodhisattva untuk berkenan menerima persembahan dan membantu kita untuk membersihkan karma buruk.
Kenapa ada persembahan minyak wangi karena yang datang bukan hanya Buddha dan Bodhisattva tetapi juga para Dakini.
nambah: dibakar agar barang2 persembahannya sampai ke Mereka.

ko ada yg minta duit? dmn tuh? kalo minta duit, boleh ngasih, asal ikhlas. ga di kasi jg gpp, bisa rejoicing sendiri nanti...

iya sih, tantra akhir2 ini lebih keliatan minta duitnya. bahkan ada yg ampe jutaan. cuma ga semua gitu. kemarin Dagpo Lama Rinpoche dtg ke Jakarta, bwt pesertanya ga dimintain duit, alias gratis...
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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #42 on: 09 January 2009, 07:02:23 PM »
namaste suvatthi hotu

Sekedar masukan bahwa seorang Bodhisatta pernah melakukan pemujaan api dalam pelbagai episode kehidupan Nya, namun tiada satupun dari praktek ini yang menuntun ke kesucian, sehingga praktek ini kemudian ditinggalkan baik oleh Bodhisatta sendiri maupun oleh para pemuja api setelah mendengarkan Dhamma dari Buddha,


Semoga bermanfaat

Majjhimanikāyo; Mūlapaṇṇāsapāḷi; 2. Sīhanādavaggo; 2. Mahāsīhanādasuttaṃ

160. “Santi kho pana, sāriputta, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṃvādino evaṃdiṭṭhino – ‘aggiparicariyāya suddhī’ti.

O Sariputta, ada beberapa petapa dan Brāhmaṇa tertentu yang berteori dan berpandangan begini:” Kesucian dapat dicapai melalui pemujaan api”.

Na kho pana so, sāriputta, aggi sulabharūpo yo mayā apariciṇṇapubbo iminā dīghena addhunā, tañca kho raññā vā satā khattiyena muddhāvasittena brāhmaṇena vā mahāsālena.

Namun tidak mungkin menemukan jenis api yang belum pernah Aku puja sepanjang perjalanan kehidupan yang panjang ini, yang aku ingat baik ketika sebagai seorang Raja atau Ksatria bermahkota  ataupun sebagai Brāhmaṇa yang kaya raya.



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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #43 on: 08 February 2009, 01:32:59 PM »
Beda tempat, beda budaya.
Beda budaya, beda cara-pikir.
Beda cara-pikir, beda pendapat.
Beda pendapat, Yaa... pindah agama...
Seharusnya yang dilakukan sebagai umat Buddha adalah:
Beda tempat, beda budaya.
Beda budaya, beda cara-pikir.
Beda cara-pikir, beda pendapat.
Beda pendapat, Yaa... Ehipassiko...

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Re: Pembakaran Api Homa
« Reply #44 on: 08 February 2009, 03:04:32 PM »
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iya sih, tantra akhir2 ini lebih keliatan minta duitnya. bahkan ada yg ampe jutaan. cuma ga semua gitu. kemarin Dagpo Lama Rinpoche dtg ke Jakarta, bwt pesertanya ga dimintain duit, alias gratis...
Waktu itu sih sampai ga boleh ngasih duit bagi yg sudah ngasih di bandung. "Rinpoche datang bukan untuk mengumpulkan uang" kata beliau. Pesertanya kayak dimarahin dan jadi pada diem gitu...hehe. Kayaknya udah pada kepikiran mau ngasi dana lagi, eh tapi dikritik.... "Ga ngasih juga gpp, ga ada keharusan"

Kalau memang api homa tidak bermanfaat saya tidak akan ikut kalau ada.
Satu saat dari pikiran yang dikuasai amarah membakar kebaikan yang telah dikumpulkan selama berkalpa-kalpa.
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