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Karmapa??
« on: 05 July 2008, 11:19:41 PM »
Namaste para sobat.........
Ada yang tau ga sekilas riwayatnya karmapa, terus koq bisa karmapa yang sekarang ada dua yach? :o
Butuh sedikit pencerahannya neh......  :-?
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #1 on: 08 July 2008, 12:38:00 PM »
maksudnya kayak H.H. Dalai Lama 14 dengan H.H. Gyalwa Karmapa 17 gitu?
CMIIW..
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #2 on: 08 July 2008, 12:48:06 PM »
Ada dua karmapa ke-17

HH the 17th Karmapa Trinlay Thaye Dorje



HH the 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje



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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #3 on: 08 July 2008, 12:59:08 PM »
Ada satu lagi yang juga diclaim sebagai Karmapa ke-17

Dawa Sangpo Dorje

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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #4 on: 08 July 2008, 01:37:12 PM »
The Karmapa was the first incarnate lama (tulku) in Tibet. The present 17th Karmapa was found and recognized as the genuine Karmapa reincarnation by H.H. Kunzig Shamar Rinpoche, second to the Karmapa in the Karma Kagyu Lineage.

Lineagenya aja yang berbeda satu black hat satu lagi yellow hat.CMIIW....as far as i know, saya ga gitu peduli dengan Tibetan Buddhism mau dia heboh ada titisan ini itu karena man made Dhamma bukan Dhamma made man.

Apa kata Sang Buddha...pelindungmu adalah dirimu sendiri.
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #5 on: 08 July 2008, 05:02:05 PM »
Yang mana yang boneka Tiongkok?
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #6 on: 08 July 2008, 05:04:58 PM »
boneka Tiongkoknya bukannya udah ilang tanpa jejak?
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #7 on: 08 July 2008, 05:08:13 PM »
Quote from: nyanadhana on 08 July 2008, 01:37:12 PM
Lineagenya aja yang berbeda satu black hat satu lagi yellow hat.CMIIW....as far as i know, saya ga gitu peduli dengan Tibetan Buddhism mau dia heboh ada titisan ini itu karena man made Dhamma bukan Dhamma made man.

upz.. hati2 koko... kita semua masih belajar, jangan tidak memperdulikan sesama apalagi sesama umat nya Sidharta...
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #8 on: 08 July 2008, 05:11:01 PM »
yuk kita support n dukung semuanya..
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #9 on: 11 July 2008, 02:10:22 PM »
"HH the 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje" Kalo ga salah yang diakui ama HH Dalai Lama yang ini yah???? Ga menutup kemungkinan tar dalai lama juga ada 2 atau 3 versi yah??

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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #10 on: 11 July 2008, 02:20:26 PM »
itu bukan Dalai Lama tapi Dalai Baru....hehehhe(jokes)
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #11 on: 12 July 2008, 11:58:11 PM »
Quote from: xing on 11 July 2008, 02:10:22 PM
"HH the 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje" Kalo ga salah yang diakui ama HH Dalai Lama yang ini yah???? Ga menutup kemungkinan tar dalai lama juga ada 2 atau 3 versi yah??



iya yang sangat saya kuatirkan apabila nanti HH Dalai Lama 14 telah mangkat, skenario itu bisa terjadi. Munculnya 2 karmapa 17 itu juga setelah mangkatnya HH Karmapa 16. Memang repot sekali apabila politik sudah masuk ke dalam agama...  semoga kejadian munculnya 2-3 orang karmapa di sekte kargyu tidak menular ke sekte gelug...

apalagi kalau menelurusi bagaimana tingkah laku para petinggi agama dalam perebutan gelar karmapa yang dilakukan oleh ke-2 belah pihak, sungguh membuat hati berduka...
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #12 on: 13 July 2008, 12:01:56 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karmapa_controversy
http://www.karmapa.org/
http://www.karmapa-issue.org/

kalau mau lengkap search aja di google pake keyword "karmapa issue"
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #13 on: 13 July 2008, 09:46:01 PM »
tenang aja. ga perlu ditakutinlah. protektornya banyak koq.. asli ato palsu nya pasti ketauan..
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Re: Karmapa??
« Reply #14 on: 13 July 2008, 10:20:50 PM »
Gelug, Kargyu, Karmapa... saya sering dengar itu tapi tak mengerti... Tatrayana sungguh membingungkan
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