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Re: Kama Sutta/Sutra
« Reply #15 on: 15 February 2009, 10:18:38 PM »
Shuranggama Sutra
ânanda, why is control of mind called sila? If all living beings
in the six worlds of existence abstain from sexual desire, they
will not be subject to the continual round of births and
deaths. Your practice of Samàdhi should free you from defilements
but they cannot be eliminated if your lustful mind
is not wiped out.
Even after you have acquired such wisdom,
if you fail to kill sensuality, then when dhyàna manifests,
you will fall into the way of demons in which their king takes
the high, his male subjects the middle and his female subjects
the low rank. These demons have their following and boast
of having attained the Supreme Path. After my nirvàna, in
the Dharma ending age, these subjects of Màra will be found
everywhere, will encourage sensuality and will disguise
themselves as men of good counsel (kalyànamitras) and
cause living beings to fall into the pit of lust thereby missing
the Bodhi path.
You should teach worldly men who practise Samàdhi
to cut off their lustful minds at the very start. This is called the
Buddhas profound teaching of the first decisive deed.
Therefore, ânanda, if carnality is not wiped out, the practice
of dhyàna is like cooking gravel to make rice; even if it is
boiled for hundreds and thousands of aeons, it will be only
hot gravel.
Why? Because instead of rice grains it contains
only stones. If you set your lustful mind on seeking the profound
fruit of Buddhahood, whatever you may realize will be
carnal by nature. If your root is lustful, you will have to transmigrate
through three unhappy ways (to the hells of fire,
blood and swords) from which you will not escape. How
then can you find the way to cultivate the Tathàgatas nirv
àna? You should cut off both the sensual body and mind
until even the very idea of doing so ceases; only then can you
hope to seek the Buddha’s Enlightenment.
This teaching of
mine is that of the Buddha whereas any other one is that of
evil demons (pàpiyàn).
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Re: Kama Sutta/Sutra
« Reply #16 on: 16 February 2009, 09:48:54 AM »
mantab2 nih.......

apalagi berkenaan dengan hari valentine...... sedikit sharing yang saya bawakan di mahasathi tgl 15 feb kemarin

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Rollo May, dalam bukunya "Love and Will" mendefinisikan empat macam cinta, yaitu:

1. Libido : cinta yang menyangkut seks, nafsu birahi.
2. Eros : dorongan untuk mencintai dan dicintai.
3. Philia : persahabatan, cinta seperti saudara.
4. Agape : cinta yang penuh pengabdian demi orang lain dengan dasar rasa kemanusiaan.

Resi Vyatsyayana, pujangga India Kuno menulis sebuah kitab tentang seni bercinta. Kitab yang menghebohkan dan dijadikan pedoman bagi pasangan yang dimabuk asmara "Kama Sutra" dan sempat pula kisah ini diangkat ke layar perak.

Dalam Sutta Nipata, terdapat pula khotbah Sang Buddha dengan judul yang sama (Kama Sutta), namun isi kedua sutta ini bertolak belakang. Jika dalam Kama Sutra diajarkan teknik-teknik bercinta, tetapi dalam Kama Sutta justru sebaliknya, Sang Buddha mengingatkan bahwa kenikmatan nafsu indera harus dihindari.
Beliau mengatakan,
"Jika manusia yang menginginkan kenikmatan-kenikmatan indera itu tidak memperolehnya, maka ia akan menderita bagaikan tertusuk anak panah" (SN - 767).

"Manusia yang menginginkan berbagai objek indera, seperti misalnya: rumah, kebun, emas, uang, kuda, pelayan, handai taulan, dll, maka emosi yang kuat akan menguasainya, bahaya akan menghimpitnya, dan penderitaan akan mengikutinya bagaikan air yang masuk ke dalam kapal yang karam" (SN -769).

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Re: Kama Sutta/Sutra
« Reply #17 on: 16 February 2009, 11:04:36 AM »
Anumodana Bro Markos.

Kemaren Waktu di Mahasathi saya kurang jelas tentang 4macam Cinta menurut Buku Love and Will by Rollo May dan sekarang sudah jelas. Thanks sudah posting lagi. Btw Ceramahnya mantep cukup educative and humorist. GRP sent yach....

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Yo kho Vakkali dhamma? passati so ma? passati; yo ma? passati so dhamma? passati.
Dhammañhi, vakkali, passanto ma? passati; ma? passanto dhamma? passati"

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Re: Kama Sutta/Sutra
« Reply #18 on: 16 February 2009, 01:09:45 PM »
dear bro Gun

jika berkenan, silahkan pm saya dan saya akan kirimkan artikel yg berisi kompilasi mengenai Cinta ini

senang bisa bermanfaat

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Re: Kama Sutta/Sutra
« Reply #19 on: 16 February 2009, 01:15:26 PM »
Bro Markos yang baik...

Saya juga mau artikel itu? bisa di email ke gmail saya?

Anumodana..._/\_

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Re: Kama Sutta/Sutra
« Reply #20 on: 17 February 2009, 08:56:08 AM »
 [at] bro gun & ci lily

email sent, semoga bermanfaat

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Re: Kama Sutta/Sutra
« Reply #21 on: 22 February 2009, 02:40:30 PM »
namaste suvatthi hotu


Apabila mau meningkatkan ke-body-an pelajari kamasutra
Tapi apabila mau mencapai ke-bodhi-an pelajari kamasutta

Jangan tertukar ya


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Re: Kama Sutta/Sutra
« Reply #22 on: 25 May 2009, 06:03:07 PM »
kok gak pakai posisi teratai bos ;D
posisi teratai maksupnya apaan bos?
posisi kama sutra =)) =)) =))

:P

dalam Tantra namanya Guhyasamaja ya?

 

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